[odawg]

“Any hope of successfully educating poor minority children depends on separating them from the hoodlums who make education impossible in so many ghetto schools.”— from article

I’ve heard many times certain people cite the fact that these inner schools, (and others) are failing the students due to an uncaring white culture. They cannot seem to make the connection that it is the “hoodlums” in the classroom that causes a school to fail. You could transfer them to gold plated palaces with the best teachers in the world, with their hands tied in the same fashion, i.e. no discipline allowed, and the same failure would occur.

[jazusamo]

Yep, and that goes right back to their parents or should say lack of them in far too many of those hoodlums.

[Timocrat]

You could transfer them to gold plated palaces with the best teachers in the world, with their hands tied in the same fashion, i.e. no discipline allowed, and the same failure would occur.

Its been tried thanks to an idiot federal judge. Kansas City Schools

[driftless2]

"hoodlums"

Read Robert Weissberg's "Bad Students, Not Bad Schools" to get the whole picture. You are correct, it's the bad students who make the bad schools. Every time some conservative wails about poor, minority kids forced to go to bad schools, I want to scream THEY!!! MADE THE SCHOOLS BAD!!!

Putting kids with 75-80 IQs and worse attitudes in good schools will achieve nothing. Separate the wheat from the chaff. Admit that a certain pct. of children cannot be educated (or civilized), and things will improve.