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To: servo1969

The State Department catches up with Pat Buchanan, declaring solemnly that “We can’t defeat ISIS by killing them all”.

But rather than throwing up our hands, why don’t we finally Move On from the old Ugly American thing, learn something about their culture, and daft the vast Orwellian machinery of opinion shaping that so dominates our own thought for this noble purpose.

We need to do whatever it takes to counter Islamist propaganda. It will require understanding how they think. This will have to be the province of experts.


3 posted on 02/18/2015 2:45:25 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

First order of business today...after breakfast...read this article to my boys and discuss. Then Mass and ashes.

It is sad that conversation, even hostile argument, is over. All that remains then is might and blood. Must we try harder or is it just that they accept their argument is completely untennable, hence avoid the exposure to their supporters? Nevertheless, when folks fear talking with us, we need to find another way to get them to do so. Mockery might pull some out, but perhaps the leaders of both sides ought be “skipped” for seemingly less adept unknowns, average Joes, to discuss the issues in smaller groups, on a person to person level, where respect can be seen in the eyes and MAINTAINED there, as Chesterton might do, so win orlose, respect for the individual lasts outside the conversation, making continued consideration of the counterpoints possible and comfortable. It must cease being a prize fight and become a genuine conversation of love the other, even in the face of covering or deflecting insult.

Stop inviting them, they admitted the campus media works to reach everyone. Invite everyone else but both sides of the argument, toning down the risk for the reward of the Truth.


4 posted on 02/18/2015 3:07:31 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: CharlesOConnell

1) Was this post supposed to be on this thread? It doesn’t seem to fit.

2) Since you’re talking isis we already KNOW everything we need to know about their culture. They are moslems. The only answer is to kill them all.

I’ve read their scriptures. They are commanded to kill all of us. Nothing will ever change that command. We can either fight back and eliminate the problem, or we can die. Those are the only two choices.


9 posted on 02/18/2015 5:56:04 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: CharlesOConnell

My response to state and pat: How do we know until we try?


13 posted on 02/18/2015 3:33:48 PM PST by AFreeBird
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