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Ranking the 2016 Republican field
The UK Progressive ^ | February 20, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 02/20/2015 9:09:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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21 posted on 02/20/2015 10:07:22 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Thunder90

One note Johnny.


22 posted on 02/20/2015 10:07:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"He said that Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.) had about the same odds of becoming the Republican presidential nominee as former Florida governor Jeb Bush."

That's because Cruz has the votes of the people, while Bush has the money of the elites.

The time may be past where sheer force of dollars determines the winner. The situation in this country is that dire.

23 posted on 02/20/2015 10:52:03 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Yet we could raise many millions for Ted Cruz if we wanted to.


24 posted on 02/20/2015 10:53:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: TomGuy

Cruz is a Senator. We have a Senator as POTUS now. It has been a disaster. Walker is a blue state Governor. He is decidedly a successful governor as a Conservative in a Blue state. It might not be New York Blue, but it is not exactly Texas or even Ohio. Walker has shown he can get things done. Governors are also much more likely to be elected President than is a senator. 2008 was an anomaly

A smart candidate and consultant would try to get a coalition going. A marriage of sorts. An early ticket announcement or better yet an agreement that Walker appoint Cruz to the Supreme Court with his first available pick in exchange for his endorsement and help campaigning.

Where would Cruz do more to disrupt the Leftist agenda? A four or eight year tour of the Oval Office, or a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court?


25 posted on 02/20/2015 11:25:47 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I read the excerpt. 45 wasted seconds I’ll never get back.

I wish I cared.


26 posted on 02/20/2015 11:33:06 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: TomGuy
Seems like Cruz has never really ever tried to please anybody. Except me.

He's never compromised, cashed in, sold out, eased up, cooled down, waited his turn, stepped aside or gone with the flow. He's just a righteous dude. What a crappy politician. He probably has a 0% approval rating with the media/establishment!

27 posted on 02/20/2015 11:40:11 PM PST by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: GeronL
Re: “Carson was still a Democrat this time last year.”

I had no idea.

Thanks for posting.

Many Conservatives do not realize that New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez was a registered Democrat until age 37.

She switched parties in 1996 and ran for District Attorney as a law-and-order Republican.

Martinez is frequently mentioned as a GOP Vice Presidential candidate in 2016.

Few Conservatives realize that 61% of Hispanics in New Mexico voted against her when she ran for governor in 2010, even though she has Mexican heritage on both sides of her family.

28 posted on 02/20/2015 11:50:17 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

My money is on Walker—the race now is for VP slot Maybe Martinez? Maybe Mitt? Maybe Huckabee?


29 posted on 02/21/2015 2:11:45 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: zeestephen
Many Conservatives do not realize that New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez was a registered Democrat until age 37.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZMafGzDJdo

30 posted on 02/21/2015 2:24:09 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: GeronL
I don’t think Carson is a conservative at all, he was still a Democrat this time last year.

Whatever.

Here was Dr Carson two years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpiryahOspY

Keep an eye on the turd on the Left.

31 posted on 02/21/2015 2:34:47 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Running on responsibility is a hard pill to swallow


32 posted on 02/21/2015 3:30:02 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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To: ronnie raygun

Like noses and “behinds”, everyone has an opinion, time will only tell who has the biggest.


33 posted on 02/21/2015 4:42:59 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: matthew fuller

According to some googling, Romney wrapped up the 2012 nomination with a Texas primary win. That primary was MAY 20, 2012, not March.


34 posted on 02/21/2015 5:50:46 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: zeestephen

Susana Martinez told her story at the 2012 GOP National convention. She says she had been a Democrat, and a man (I can’t remember who, came and spoke to her and her husband about politics in general, and ‘why she was not really a Democrat - but in reality she was a Republican - because her political views skewed towards conservatism.

She said at the convention, that she then studied the policies of the GOP vs the Democrats, and realized it was true. That was when she changed her political affiliation to GOP.


35 posted on 02/21/2015 6:39:20 AM PST by Gumdrop
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I hope you are both right.

To my eye, though, Martinez looks like a standard center-left Republican who simply made an effort to slow down state spending.

There is no indication she wants to slow down legal immigration, which is steadily destroying Conservative political power.

There is no indication she wants to slow down work visas and Green Cards, which are destroying the wage scale for low skill Americans and American software engineers.

My instincts say she will be soft on USA military spending and soft on the defense of Israel.

She is soft on Abortion, which will demoralize some Christian Conservatives.

And my instincts say she will be way soft on the Constitution and will appoint many center-left judges like Chief Justice John Roberts.

I'm also not a great fan of former Democrat Ronald Reagan.

No question that 1981-1984 was the best single presidential term for Conservatives since Calvin Coolidge.

But things fell apart in 1985-1988.

Government spending increased dramatically.

Reagan made no serious attempt to privatize Social Security, and he approved a “rescue” plan that simply increased taxes and increased the retirement age.

He increased taxes in exchange for utterly bogus Democrat promises to control spending.

He signed the Reagan Amnesty in 1986 that ignited the avalanche of legal immigrants we live with today, and that would make it impossible for him to be elected governor of California in 2016.

There's no question that Reagan played a vital role in ending the Cold War.

In my opinion, though, if someone like Putin or a healthy Brezhnev had been leader of the Soviet Union from 1981-1988, instead of Gorbachev, I think we would still be fighting the Cold War.

36 posted on 02/21/2015 2:58:21 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: TomGuy

Looks like I was almost 3 months wrong, looks like the Pubbie primary in 2012 was may 29.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/TX-R

That reinforces my opinion that TX primary is way too late to have any real say in the process.


37 posted on 02/21/2015 3:30:41 PM PST by matthew fuller (US Constitution with index- http://constitutionus.com/)
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