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Ranking the 2016 Republican field
The UK Progressive ^ | February 20, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 02/20/2015 9:09:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The Washington Post’s Chris Cilliza explains…

A prominent Republican consultant — who isn’t working for any of the 2016 presidential candidates and has been right more times than I can count — said something that shocked me when we had lunch recently. He said that Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.) had about the same odds of becoming the Republican presidential nominee as former Florida governor Jeb Bush.

Jaw-dropper, right? After all, the conventional wisdom is that Bush, the son and brother of presidents, is the Republican standard-bearer, while Cruz, a conservative’s conservative, is a factor, sure, but not someone who could actually win the nomination.

How, I asked the consultant, could he say such a thing? He explained it this way.

Think of the Republican field as a series of lanes. In this race, there are four of them: establishment, tea party, social conservative and libertarian. The four lanes are not of equal size: Establishment is the biggest, followed by tea party, social conservative and then libertarian.

Obviously, the fight for the top spot in the establishment lane is crowded, with Bush and possibly Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker leading at the moment. Ditto the social-conservative lane, with former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson and Rick Santorum pushing hard there. The libertarian lane is all Sen. Rand Paul’s, but, as I noted above, it’s still not that big.

This leaves the tea party lane, which is both relatively large and entirely Cruz’s. While Paul looked as though he might try to fight Cruz for supremacy in that lane at one time, it’s clear from his recent moves that the senator from Kentucky is trying to become a player in a bunch of lanes, including social conservative and establishment. So, Cruz is, without question, the dominant figure in the tea party lane.

What that means — particularly in the early stages of the primary process in places such as Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina — is that he will probably be able to win, place or show repeatedly, racking up enough strong-ish performances to keep going even as the establishment and social-conservative lanes thin out. (Cruz’s ability to raise money, which remains a question, is less important for him than it is for other candidates — especially those in the establishment lane. His people are going to be for him no matter how much — or little — communicating he does with them.)

The trick for Cruz, the consultant said, is to hang around long enough to be the preeminent figure not only in the tea party lane but also in the social-conservative lane. (Cruz is decidedly conservative on social issues and talks regularly on the campaign trail about his faith. ) The complicating figure in that consolidation effort is Huckabee, who is (a) likely to run, (b) an ordained Southern Baptist minister and (c) likely to be able to stay in the race for an extended period because of the number of early Southern primaries.

But let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that Cruz is able to outlast Huckabee (as well as Carson and Santorum). If you combine the tea party and social-conservative lanes, that’s a pretty wide berth for any candidate hoping to be the GOP nominee. Is it as wide as a consolidated establishment lane behind Bush or Walker or Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.)? No one knows just yet, but it’s probably pretty close.

So watch Cruz. The combination of his running room as the race’s one true tea party candidate, his debating and oratorical skills, and his willingness to always, on every issue, stake out the most conservative position make him a real threat.

The 10 candidates with the best chance of being the Republican candidate in 2016 are ranked below. The No. 1 candidate has the best shot as of today.

10. Indiana Gov. Mike Pence. Pence hasn’t ruled out a run, though he’s probably got to choose between running for president and reelection in 2016. One recent development: Pence expanded Medicaid in Indiana after negotiating some concessions from the Obama administration — though we’re not sure whether this would help or hurt him in 2016.

9. Huckabee. The former Arkansas governor is giving every indication he is running. If he does, he will be a factor because of his strong following among social conservatives. An NBC-Marist poll released Sunday showed him on top of the field in Iowa.

8. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal. Jindal is the résumé candidate in the GOP field. He’s shown us little besides that, though, apart from occasionally tossing some red meat to the conservative base. The latest example: not backing down from his comments on “no-go zones” for non-Muslims in Europe.

6. (tie) Cruz. See above. Remember that although he is roundly derided by his colleagues — Democrats and Republicans — in the Senate, he may be closer to how the GOP base feels on most issues than anyone else running.

6. (tie) Ohio Gov. John Kasich. After lying dormant for a few months after his convincing 2014 reelection victory, Kasich will spend two days this week in South Carolina. That trip will spark some buzz about whether he will run, but Kasich may have waited too long — Walker, another Midwestern governor from a swing state, is on the rise.

5. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. Increasingly, it’s looking as if Christie missed his window for running for president in 2012. A new Rutgers-Eagleton poll shows that his favorable rating in New Jersey hasdropped to 37 percent — after topping out at nearly 70 percent. And it’s not just his home state. Polls of likely GOP voters in Iowa and New Hampshire show that he is the most unliked Republican not named Donald Trump.

4. Paul. Speaking of people whose stock is dropping, the senator’s vaccine comments continue to baffle us — especially because he continues to play the victim card. Yes, there is a segment of the GOP that probably likes the idea that Paul is taking on the “liberal media.” But there’s also a much bigger portion of the party that will look at his vaccine flap and see Ron Paul 2.0.

3. Rubio. Yes, his path to the nomination is complicated by Bush’s all-but-announced candidacy. But if Republican voters are looking for a fresh face who could, theoretically, expand the party’s appeal, then Rubio could be the dark horse in the race.

2. Walker. The Wisconsin governor is clearly ascendant right now, thanks in large part to his strong speech at an Iowa confab a few weekends ago. His ham-handed handling of an evolution question, however, and his decision not to answer questions in London during a trade mission are not good signs.

1. Bush. The former Florida governor remains the top dog , and he got a big break when Mitt Romney opted not to run. Bush probably would have remained No. 1 even if Romney had got in, but the 2012 nominee’s exit makes Bush the obvious choice for GOP establishment types


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; bush; cruz; elections; huckabee; randpaul; tedcruz
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1 posted on 02/20/2015 9:09:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More WaPo-sourced fluff hyping RINO candidates. Yawn.


2 posted on 02/20/2015 9:17:46 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Yes, but look at the comments about Ted Cruz.


3 posted on 02/20/2015 9:19:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just the left beginning the selection or our candidate, the candidate they know they can beat.


4 posted on 02/20/2015 9:22:29 PM PST by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: doc1019

Bingo! Why do we never see an analysis like this of the RAT side? The reason is the dinosaur media and the RATS have already decided on their candidate. Who the hell are they to tell us what to do and think?


5 posted on 02/20/2015 9:29:23 PM PST by Fungi (Evolution is piece by piece over billions of years. At what point did a precursor become a human?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep. They’re admitting Cruz’ strength, but then ranking FIVE other candidates as having a better chance.

Paul has NO chance of being the nominee, and only one of Bush, Rubio and Christie has a chance.


6 posted on 02/20/2015 9:31:28 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some ‘experts’ call Walker a conservative. Others call him establishment. The Media and GOP elites are trying hard to paint Walker out early.

What makes Carson a ‘social conservative’?

Cruz, quite probably the most conservative of the entire field, does not seem to make the needle move. Walker, after his well-received Iowa speech, became the leader of the pack, neck and neck with Bush. Cruz, who also have a well-received Iowa speech, did not gain much. Cruz remained in the single digit area.

Then, there is Lindsey Graham, who claims to be considering a run, but nobody seems to even notice him. Same with Peter King.


7 posted on 02/20/2015 9:34:27 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

from over here under the park bench,
it looks like a contest between

tons of money (Jeb, apparently) and
who the voters want (Cruz or a couple of other possibilities to be sure)

so far, haven’t met a single person who WANTS Jeb.
this is not a personal attack on him, just saying we haven’t met anyone who wants to see him run this time... everyone prefers someone else)

but as Mark Levin said last time around..when he was ready to vote for a used orange juice tin if necessary to stop Obama....

we will see....
I am almost ready to vote for that same used orange juice in 2016 if it will stop Hillary


8 posted on 02/20/2015 9:34:34 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Several southern states are trying to get the RNC to move their primaries earlier. Currently, those primaries are late in the spring. Thus, the nominee is usually selected before those primaries are even held.

If those states succeed and get their primaries moved to early March, that could put a wrinkle in the GOP elite push to coronate their establishment selectee.


9 posted on 02/20/2015 9:42:38 PM PST by TomGuy
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" Cruz. See above. Remember that although he is roundly derided by his colleagues — Democrats and Republicans — in the Senate, he may be closer to how the GOP base feels on most issues than anyone else running. "

BINGO! That is the bottom line, right there.

10 posted on 02/20/2015 9:46:06 PM PST by matthew fuller (US Constitution with index- http://constitutionus.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America will get the president they deserve....

unless theres massive voter fraud... but then..
they will get what they deserve for NOT REVOLTING..

if they are cowards they need to be manipulated..
If not... then they are lazy.. or apathetic..


11 posted on 02/20/2015 9:46:43 PM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think most “social conservatives” will happily support Cruz


12 posted on 02/20/2015 9:47:18 PM PST by GeronL
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To: doc1019

Exactly .. and that would be Jeb Bush. The left has made the name of “Bush” very hated .. almost beyond rational .. and I am thinking the left will surely use that hatred of the Bush name to try to tarnish him.

I’ve seen it already with the mess in Iraq .. a TV person almost hyper-ventilating over their pronouncements that it was Bush who messed up Iraq and caused ISIS.

I’m confident the left is salivating over the possibilities of being able to tarnish Jeb with that info; and it may be the whole reason why they will try to keep Jeb’s name first in line (but I believe Walker is already ahead of him) .. I’ve seen it in a couple of polls.


13 posted on 02/20/2015 9:47:27 PM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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To: TomGuy

I don’t think Carson is a conservative at all, he was still a Democrat this time last year.


14 posted on 02/20/2015 9:48:14 PM PST by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We better keep our heads about us this election. We need to win. The press is going to have a field day.

I haven’t exactly made a decision on the candidates yet, waiting to hear what they have to say. However, I more or less HAVE made the decision against Jeb Bush, even before I read comments about the recent speech Jeb Bush made, which are devastating. Just reading them I had to wonder how DID that speech come off to the ones who are even CONSIDERING voting for anyone the GOP has to put up. The two comments below made me cringe.

“I had to go back to look at some of the quotes from Jeb Bush’s foreign policy speech—it couldn’t possibly be as bad as some say it was...but oh sh**, it was much, much worse. WTF are the Republicans up to—sending up one ill prepared (and I mean ill prepared as in Spicoli in ‘Fast Times At Ridgemont High’ ill prepared) wanna be candidate after another? When is the GOP going to get serious, or are they indeed happy to sit out national elections in perpetuity and depend on gerrymandered districts to hold the House? The country deserves better than that. Hell, no wonder GOP supporters are so confused.”

“I recommend that you watch video of Jeb’s speech. It is mind boggling that he would have gone out so unprepared to try to make that speech. I actually felt embarrassed for him.”

However, the main stream press say Bush is the front runner, despite trailing numbers in the polls:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/13/mainstream-press-anoint-jeb-bush-frontrunner-despite-lackluster-poll-numbers/


15 posted on 02/20/2015 9:48:34 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: TomGuy
"If those states succeed and get their primaries moved to early March"

I disagree- Texas has always (in my memory) been March 4, and that is way too late, by then it has already been decided, with conservatives having been already eliminated.

16 posted on 02/20/2015 9:53:44 PM PST by matthew fuller (US Constitution with index- http://constitutionus.com/)
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To: GeronL

I’m not disputing your assertion, but do you have any reference for it?


17 posted on 02/20/2015 9:56:48 PM PST by matthew fuller (US Constitution with index- http://constitutionus.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a joke. Does anyone really think that most of these people have even a remote chance?! Most are simply trying to get their 5 minutes and waste people’s money.


18 posted on 02/20/2015 9:58:38 PM PST by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: faithhopecharity

Used orange juice cans always lose.History is so clear on that.


19 posted on 02/20/2015 10:01:44 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yawn... Go Scott Walker...

He will get tea party support.


20 posted on 02/20/2015 10:04:00 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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