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Resistance in Munich
Townhall.com ^ | February 22, 2015 | Paul Jacob

Posted on 02/22/2015 6:51:34 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/22/2015 6:51:34 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I remember watching a movie about this and again, being livid that evil prevailed.


2 posted on 02/22/2015 6:59:33 AM PST by yldstrk
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So, perhaps it was no surprise that the Scholls helped organize a group known as The White Rose, comprised mainly of students at the University of Munich. These young people saw Hitler and the Nazis as pure, unadulterated evil — as a threat to all that is good and true.

They were convinced that most Germans felt the same way. But they knew most were too afraid to speak up, to stand up, to resist the evil in front of them. After all, the price would almost assuredly be death, and life is mighty dear.

Where is today's USA equivalent of the White Rose in our universities? In the halls of Congress? In the media? Seems like only the internet and talk radio come close.

3 posted on 02/22/2015 7:05:25 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Kaslin
The White Rose resistance should inspire us to bear a little more risk in the cause of civilization, justice, freedom.

OK, who do we shoot first? Or is it better for them to have "accidents", or just disappear? < /sarc >

4 posted on 02/22/2015 7:08:25 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Where is today's USA equivalent of the White Rose in our universities?

Everywhere.

More.

5 posted on 02/22/2015 7:13:59 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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6 posted on 02/22/2015 7:17:07 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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To: JimRed
Seems like only the Internet and talk radio come close.

Precisely, the top two on the government list There Ought to be a Law.

7 posted on 02/22/2015 7:19:31 AM PST by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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>> They were convinced that most Germans felt the same way <<

Kudos to them for their bravery. But from what I've read, I'd say that rather than most, the numbers probably were closer to 50-50.

In any case, there was no chance that a popular uprising could succeed, even if such a movement had been supported by 80% of the people. The methods used by the SS and the Gestapo to suppress dissent were simply too brutal, too ruthless and too effective.

8 posted on 02/22/2015 7:20:28 AM PST by Hawthorn
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“Radical right-wing extremists”
“Evangelical Christian extreme-right”
“Clinging to God and guns”
“America was never a Christian nation; it was an Islamic one”
“The Constitution is an old, worn-out document that should be discarded”
“We need to spread the wealth”
“This is an Islamic nation”
“Tea Party terrorists”
“Right-wing terrorists”
“I will stand against the enemies of islam”
Enemies of the State
Enemies of islam
Enemies of the people
arrests
execution by firing squad
beheadings
children removed from parents
sick, elderly, disabled euthanized

If the military does not rise up (because Congress will not), the last four on the list are a certainty to occur. We the People, we know that the Lord God told us to “Fear not”. It wasn’t a request from Him, but a command. “Perfect love casts out all fear”: God is love, perfect love. “Fear not those that can kill the body, but that one (satan) that can destroy both body and soul in Hell.”
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, so whosoever shall believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
In order for us to be truly ready for the ultimate fight, we must put our entire faith in the Lord Jesus Christ—to guide us, to strengthen us, to feed us through His Word, and be ready to give an account for our faith in Him. Should that ultimate sacrifice come upon any of us, let us be true followers in Christ when we take up arms against the enemy, so on both fronts—temporal and eternal—we will truly be ready.
“Even so, come Lord Jesus!”


9 posted on 02/22/2015 7:42:08 AM PST by Patriot777 (Imagine....that we could see Obama being hauled out of the White House kicking and screaming?)
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To: yldstrk

Quite often evil prevails in the short term. That’s why the tree of liberty must be watered with blood and not words, deed or actions. There must be sacrifice in order for a just and free society to prevail. The longer it is delayed the larder the sacrifice required. We have delayed a very long time. There are very few people left that even use the word liberty anymore and even less who know what it means. The pendulum must swing back to our roots. I know it’s going to get much darker before the next dawn.


10 posted on 02/22/2015 7:47:44 AM PST by wgmalabama
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To: Kaslin

Hans and Sophie Schall and friend.

11 posted on 02/22/2015 7:48:03 AM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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This was their philosophy professor at the University of Munich, I think he was also executed.

He is the spitting image of William F. Buckley.

12 posted on 02/22/2015 7:50:49 AM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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As brave as the White arose resistance was, as good and correct it was, inspiring it is not.

It certainly did not work.

It should show us that we must never encourage dictatorships. Right now, the left in the country defend Obama far too much. He is approaching dictator status. I know they might politically agree with him, but in reality these Americans don’t understand socialism and how perilous it is to top down overarching government control. They just think political correctness can be perfectly achieved to leave no one out and help everybody.

That is bull. The only smart leftists today are the ones disillusioned with Obama’s abuse of power. They know, that they would not want their political enemies to have this much, so they understand that it is wrong for a leftist President to take thst much power for himself.

The Media is as bad as Nazi propaganda and sadly, our uninformed, busy fellow Americans believe what they see and hear there. They just don’t understand that other than the films at 11 of car chases and crashes, nothing else on their news can be accepted as facts. And what their news show chooses to omit is sometimes jaw droppingly more important to them than what the media chooses to talk about.


13 posted on 02/22/2015 7:53:24 AM PST by Yaelle
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Brutal,Ruthless and Effective,,,

Ultimately,

FAIL!


14 posted on 02/22/2015 7:54:56 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Hawthorn

Actually popular revolution only take about 10% of the population. Most of the “people” are apathetic, old, government employees or just stupid.

Most of the population is unarmed.

Much of the population is unware.

But...show one video of the powers that be shooting into a peaceful crowd and you will change the world.

It worked in 1775 and 1970.

No, getting someone to stand in that crowd is the trick.


15 posted on 02/22/2015 7:57:04 AM PST by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: JimRed

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16 posted on 02/22/2015 8:01:18 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: JimRed

The Tea Party IS White Rose. That is why the Klown hates it so much!


17 posted on 02/22/2015 8:39:20 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Interesting story about the death of Roland Freisler the Nazi judge who screamed at the White Rose defendants before sentencing them to be executed. Freisler was known for screaming at defendants including those involved in the plot to kill Hitler.

Freisler was killed by Allied bombs during a bombing raid in February of 1945 in his own courtroom as he was trying to retrieve courtroom files. Supposedly when his body was taken to the hospital one of the workers declared it was God's verdict. None of the other hospital workers said anything so hated was Freisler by many Germans.

18 posted on 02/22/2015 10:09:15 AM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Vermont Lt

>> show one video of the powers that be shooting into a peaceful crowd and you will change the world <<

I wish it could be so, but nope, things don’t work out that way always, only sometimes. Granted that it happened in Romania in 1989, and it happened a few years ago during the “Arab Spring” in Tunisia and Egypt. But popular uprisings failed to topple Gaddafi in Libya or Assad in Syria. And you seem to have forgotten about the Tian An Men massacre in 1989, and about the similar massacre a few years later in Burma. Plenty of “video” about those incidents, yet the repressive regimes didn’t fall.

As I read history, the Nazi regime was so ruthless and savage toward its own people, thanks to the Gestapo and the SS, that overwhelming external force was the only possible means to end the Third Reich.


19 posted on 02/22/2015 10:41:44 AM PST by Hawthorn
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>> Brutal,Ruthless and Effective,,,

>> Ultimately,

>> FAIL!

Sorry, but I gotta disagree with what I infer to be your opinion. The brutality and ruthlessness of the Nazis were not what caused them ultimately to lose the war.

No, I submit that there was never a “failure” of the Third Reich. Rather, the regime was CRUSHED by the combined impact of America’s industrial might on the western front and Russia’s inexhaustible supply of manpower on the eastern front. Absent those twinned pincers, west and east, the Third Reich might still be with us today.

(A very good recent book about the Nazi regime’s distressingly effective control over the German people is “The End” by Ian Kershaw.)


20 posted on 02/22/2015 10:59:56 AM PST by Hawthorn
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