Posted on 02/22/2015 4:31:52 PM PST by GreyFriar
These idiots are going to go to sleep one night thinking they have the whole Israel/Iran problem wrapped up without ever including Israel in any sort of an information flow and then act like they have some reason to be shocked when Israelis nuke those atomic plants in Iran.
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Seems to me Loren clearly made the case that the images falsely attributed to being SAD, were published in exotic magazines in 1958, when Stanley Ann was still in high school and hadn’t set foot in Hawaii.
The Australian (Brisbane) academic who posted them on his website, maintains they had been sent to him by ‘a genealogist’ with the suggestion the model looked like Stanley Ann refuses to recant.
The whole thing was nothing but a disgusting hoax and waste of time.
Thursday, October 23, 2008
Naughty Obama Mamma
That Loren Collins may at one time have been a freeper under the name of Loren C and thorn in our side, makes no difference. The images of the exotic model were circulated in various publications long before Stanley Ann was old enough to even set eyes on Frank Marshall Davis.
In fact, if you read what the ‘academic’ tells us was the e-mail which accompanied the images, it sounds as if it was written by none other than the fraud Joel Gilbert himself.
I think you want this link to the Naughty Obama Mamma post:
http://dissectleft.blogspot.com.au/2008/10/naughty-obama-mamma-its-amazing-what.html
The post does appear at the link you gave, but it's 20,543 pixels down on a page that's 31,761 pixels tall.
Good blog, BTW.
I think he was manipulated into posting the images on the page he linked to, which is dead by now. I wrote to him and he wouldn’t divulge who sent them to him.
I don’t think ‘genealogists’ find much of interest on vintage porn sites.
I ultimately found the website from the clues (name and numbers) on the images themselves, but by that time, the images of that model had been removed.
When Gilbert presented his hoax, the entire site had been cleaned out.
I have another site link I can send you showing the same girl, it’s a little risqué so I’ll send it private.
The case for Davis being the father was made by Andy Martin and others in 2008, years before Joel Gilbert came along.
The model from the 1958 Exotique issue is not the same woman as the woman in the three “Obama mama” nudes, which would have been taken around Chrsitmas 1960.
Gilbert and some misguided/lying Freepers have repeatedly said this was the same woman, but this is simply not the case.
Collins in his youtube video does not show or even acknowledge the three original 1960 Obama mama nudes. So, Collins has partially “debunked” the grifter Gilbert, but he hasn’t debunked any of the original Obama mama research that predated Gilbert by years.
Collins’ strawman fallacy is for all intents and purposes a lie.
Collins’ lying got him banned from FreeRepublic.
Collins posts an awful lot of pro-Communist propaganda for a “libertarian.”
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