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Judge: Religious expression is not protected by the Constitution
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| 2/20/15
| Dustin Siggins
Posted on 02/23/2015 7:38:22 AM PST by wagglebee
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"For over 135 years, the Supreme Court of the United States has held that laws may prohibit religiously motivated action, as opposed to belief," he ruled. That's to prohibit things like human sacrifice you moron.
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:38:22 AM PST
by
wagglebee
To: 185JHP; 230FMJ; AFA-Michigan; AKA Elena; APatientMan; Abathar; Absolutely Nobama; Albion Wilde; ...
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:38:56 AM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:41:24 AM PST
by
yldstrk
To: wagglebee
so why can a muslim in prison be told by the courts he can grow a beard due to his religious beliefs?
The country was founded on religious freedom, that was the reason why people came here in the first place. Now Libs like liberals and libertarians think it’s wrong and don’t agree but it is a fact. They think Christians are imposing their religious views onto them , but what is going on is how Christians are being targeted and having their rights stripped away.
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:43:14 AM PST
by
manc
(Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
To: wagglebee
Day by day,hour by hour, comma and period by comma and period moronic activist left leaning judges are stripping away the magnificent work of the founding fathers.
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:44:32 AM PST
by
Don Corleone
("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
To: wagglebee
At the same time the FBI is ordered to stop monitoring Mosques.
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:45:11 AM PST
by
skeeter
To: wagglebee
Nah. Ever since the ‘60s you could tell this was coming.
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:47:09 AM PST
by
chesley
(Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
To: wagglebee
Benton County Superior Court Judge Alexander Ekstrom ruled that while the religious beliefs of florist Barronelle Stutzman related to marriage is protected by the U.S. Constitution, living her life in accordance with her faith is not.Unless you are Sikh who wants to wear his or her turban while on duty or a Mooselimb who doesn't want to shave his beard or a detainee at Gitmo who insists on halal meals and a prayer rug.
Otherwise, right.
Let me boil it down for you troglodyte Christians. The Constitution is un-Constitutional.
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:47:12 AM PST
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
To: wagglebee
Judge Eckstrom seem to rule that I can be sued for violating someone’s civil rights because I took the LIFE ACTION of actually closing my business on a RELIGIOUS holiday, and thus could not accommadate the would-be customer.
The service I provide is provided AT THE MOMENT, not one scheduled for a later date, thus my closing denies the customer, because of my religious beliefs, the benefit of said service.
Your, (dis)Honor, go to a very warm Zip Code.
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:47:13 AM PST
by
CaptainAmiigaf
(N.Y. TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
To: wagglebee
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof (The First Amendment. to the US Constitution)
Rulings like this one in Washington do two things:
- Cause injury to people caught in the clutches of this court;
- Delegitimize US laws in general as making any law, no matter how clearly written, subject to judicial caprice
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:47:15 AM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: wagglebee
She cannot be forced to create a message she disagrees with.
She should try to appeal on Speech grounds.
Worth a shot: the forces of evil are aligned against religious belief.
The homosexual’s right trumps YOUR right because they say so.
But you cannot be made to speak.
She had no problem selling them cakes pies and cookies. But to bake a cake for their “marriage” was to create a message and she has every right to refuse to speak that message.
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:48:47 AM PST
by
Adder
(No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
To: wagglebee
Benton County Superior Court Judge Alexander Ekstrom ruled that while the religious beliefs of florist Barronelle Stutzman related to marriage is protected by the U.S. Constitution, living her life in accordance with her faith is not...."For over 135 years, the Supreme Court of the United States has held that laws may prohibit religiously motivated action, as opposed to belief," he ruled. He said that "in trade and commerce, and more particularly when seeking to prevent discrimination in public accommodations," legislatures are allowed "to prohibit conduct it deems discriminatory." Ekstrom ruled that this applies "even where the motivation for that conduct is grounded in religious belief." PFL
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:49:33 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
To: wagglebee
Amendment 1: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF...
How does “His Honor” deny such “free exercise” protected by A-1?
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:51:12 AM PST
by
Cletus.D.Yokel
(Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
To: CaptainAmiigaf
I think that if you close your business only to certain people, your example would be oon point.
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:53:13 AM PST
by
Regal
To: wagglebee
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
To: wagglebee
So as long as you leave your beliefs at the church door, you are okay?
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:59:13 AM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
To: Adder
The sad reality of the judicial system is that she is Constitutionally within her rights but if this goes all the way to the subprime Court the owned black-robed puissant blackmailed whores such as Roberts will do as their masters tell them and rule against the Constitution, albeit they will tell US that they are 'interpreting the Constitution'.
If there remain no men with convictions and the courage to stand against the blackmail and threats, the very small gaggle of dead-soul oligarchs take over the planet and toss it into the sewer for the next several hundred years. Individuals like John Roberts and John Boehner are the black-mailable shills the oligarchs allow into power knowing they will do as they are commanded to do reqardless of the treachery.
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:59:24 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
Madison's Notes for the Bill of Rights
Madison used this outline to guide him in delivering his speech introducing the Bill of Rights into the First Congress on June 8, 1789. Madison proposed an amendment to assuage the anxieties of those who feared that religious freedom would be endangered by the unamended Constitution. According to The Congressional Register Madison, on June 8, moved that "the civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretext infringed."
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posted on
02/23/2015 7:59:30 AM PST
by
DJ MacWoW
(The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
To: wagglebee
A possible work-around for stores would be to have a subcontractor clause in their contracts. So, they can accept the contract and then sub it to another who doesn’t mind dealing with the client base. Just claim you had to sub it for health reasons.
To: Adder
The judge is wrong. She should appeal on the grounds that the judge is prohibiting the free exercise of her religion.
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posted on
02/23/2015 8:01:25 AM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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