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To: txrefugee

The federal government LOVES the power that the WOD gives them to legally steal from the people and to imprison them.


4 posted on 02/27/2015 6:29:34 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; txrefugee

Very quick to blame the WOD, aren’t we?

As if surrendering in the WOD would suddenly magically make the meth problems disappear and go away.

How about we surrender in the WOM? (Murder) That way this killing spree would not be a problem.


5 posted on 02/27/2015 6:32:15 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Obama used to be against people who cling to guns and religion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Sounds like the drug scum themselves racked up a pretty good toll in this case.


6 posted on 02/27/2015 6:33:00 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Homeland Security sees it to be their job to protect Hollywood’s copyright. They raid stores for illicit NFL panties.

Why not call for an end of the WOC?


24 posted on 02/27/2015 7:19:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
So what is the appropriate action to take? Legalize all drug usage? I'm not saying you are wrong, I am just asking what you believe the correct solution to be.

Freedoms being lost can be attributed to governments at all levels, but blame also lays at the feet of people inhabiting & visiting America. For to have freedoms requires that the citizens place limitations upon themselves. When they don't, a percentage of people will demand something be done, which is where governments come into play.

To just make an activity legal, in no way makes our freedoms greater. Indeed our freedom to move about freely in our own neighborhood may be impacted by increased criminal activity spawned to engage financially in said legal activity. I wonder how many people commit crimes to afford the outrageous prices of cigarettes, for example. It seems I have read of cases where clerks were shot in convenience stores, and items taken were cigarettes, and alcohol.

Hopefully you can offer up the solution that satisfies all, while not infringing upon the freedoms of any. Hint: it's impossible, at least I believe it to be. That is, without people themselves being their own policemen. However, I am always open to hearing from everyone.

32 posted on 02/27/2015 7:47:45 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Thank you for your sharing your wisdom, BOT.

Prohibition is a fundamental attack on human Freedom. The problems that drugs cause will never be addressed by imprisoning people using contraband law.

The preemptive authoritarian arguments used by Prohibitionists are of the same order that the Left uses to justify the collectivist Tyranny that it espouses.

Those who embrace Prohibition ultimately embrace Tyranny in all of its forms, for the Laws which flow from it are arbitrary.

Crime and negligence occurs when rights are actually infringed upon, with force or fraud. Not when they might be infringed upon.

If People accept the arguments for the existence of contraband law, then any amount of Tyranny can be justified using the same "what about the children" or "we must be saved from ourselves" reasoning. This absurd logic was used during alcohol Prohibition (parenthetically, alcohol is the worst drug on the face of the Earth, far exceeding the damage of all other drugs combined) yet the even more evil fruit which Prohibition bears was and is clear for all to see.

Those who are not Tyrants in their heart must therefore be content with criminalizing people after they have committed actual crimes. This is the essence of true Freedom. Freewill, by its very nature, does not guarantee peace and tranquility, indeed quite the opposite. It is within those confines that education and morality must prevail without the use of coercion.

The authoritarian on the right who wishes to imprison somebody for possessing the wrong plant, medicine, or liquor uses the same Tyrannical logic which the authoritarian on the left seeks to use to ban smoking, guns, bullets, the right to work, and so on. There is no difference.

Authoritarians on either side of this phony left-right spectrum invariably offer a choice between whose petty visions of Tyranny and "order" shall prevail.

I reject such false choices utterly. I choose freewill for myself and my brethren, with all its perilous adjuncts, warts, inconveniences, potentials, and opportunities.

Therein lies true Liberty, and taking shortcuts with Liberty will never create a better world. Indeed it will create a less-free, and therefore less ideal world.

Those who wish to lead must do so by example using education and persuasion, not by using the force of the state to oppress those with whom they disagree.

True crime should be punished aggressively and severely. Yet, as we have seen, all People are now made criminals due to their violation of one rule or another; rules promulgated by misguided nanny-staters who seem to prefer the peace of a police state to the animating challenge of Freedom.

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56 posted on 02/27/2015 1:24:25 PM PST by sargon
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