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To: jmacusa

My only point is that not only are nuclear weapons not “off the table” their use is in fact guaranteed if the west pursues Ukraine and seems to be winning. We know this. There isn’t any debate to be had, and political chicanery can not change that.

Even if the US stays out of the European Union’s flailing attempts to remain viable we need to be beefing up our infrastructure and preparing for what a nuclear war will bring because Brussels is stupid enough to bring one about.

And we need a commander in chief who will not allow the US to be devastated in a first strike without ordering a counter response while it is inbound. We don’t have one of those right now. Even at this site most participants have experienced only peace for so long that they can not comprehend the necessity.


97 posted on 02/28/2015 11:13:28 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

Nonsense.

Russia either succeeds in invading Ukraine or they commit suicide by launching nuclear weapons?

We need to be nipping this Russian aggression in the bud and shipping weapons to Ukraine and making clear to Russia that the world won’t stand for this threatening and attacking of Europe.


98 posted on 02/28/2015 11:21:40 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: MrEdd

The ‘’ pursuing Ukraine’’? You made mention of the Crimea, to me I interpret that as Russian historical anxiety about having the ‘’warm water port’’. I can understand that. But Putin invading Western Europe? And nukes? There are no winners there nor would it be a war. One and it’s all over. I’ve said here before that Russian leaders, pre-Soviet and post have gone either to far in the Bears ambitions or too little. In any event my point is if this thing in Ukraine isn’t resolved soon to either Putin’s satisfaction, i.e re-absorbing it back to “The Motherland’’ or he backs off(to me not likely) he’ll develop a case of the “Kremlin Flu’’ and be forced out of power. I can’t imagine anyone in his circle wanting to see a nuclear annihilated wasteland as the price of victory in Vlad desire to be czar of some version of modern Imperial Russia.


99 posted on 02/28/2015 12:23:52 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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