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Stock Run-up 3 Weeks Old, Experts Confused-- Investor Thread March 1, 2015
Weekly investment & finance thread ^ | Mar. 1, 2015 | Freeper Investors

Posted on 03/01/2015 5:34:21 AM PST by expat_panama

[excerpt from Stock-market crash of 2016: The countdown begins]

Dow will drop 50% as market replays 2008, 2000 and 1929.  That will translate into the DJIA crashing from today’s 18,117 down 50% to about 9,000. Ouch, the Dow crashing all the way below 10,000. Unimaginable. Bulls will hate it. No wonder our brains tune out, turn off. Instead, we prefer the happy talk that will just keep coming out of Wall Street and Washington till the 2016 collapse. We’ll just keep denying reality ... till it’s too late, and we suffer another $10 trillion loss is on the books.

Deja vu 2000: irrational exuberance, dot-com technologies
Remember 1999. Just 16 years ago. Roaring hot “irrational exuberance.” Renewed stock market mania. Wall Street was hot. Stocks roaring. Back then investors demanded insane annual returns during the worldwide millennium celebrations: the top 19 mutual funds had 179% to 323% annual returns.

Yes, dot-com stockholders expected 100% plus returns on zero revenues...

[snip]

...Deja vu the Crash of 1929: and the long Great Depression...

[snip]

...Yikes, it took 13 long years to break even from Wall Street’s losses of 2000 and 2008. And now investors are being warned that the Crash of 2016 will be even worse, with new losses of 50%. In short, the market really is bad news.

But still, here we are again, panicking: Fearing that 2016 will repeat 1929, fearing that Wall Street and Main Street, tens of millions of Americans, plus the Fed, the SEC, Washington politicians in both parties will refuse to prepare for the Crash of 2016. Will deny hearing the warnings ... of the Crash of 2016, one that promises in the end to become bigger and badder and far more dangerous than 2008, 1999 and 1929 combined. Listen closely, the countdown to the Crash of 2016 has started.

     [excerpt from Barron's rebuttal Considering the ‘Stock Market Crash of 2016’]

DI’ll give veteran MarketWatch columnist Paul B. Farrell his due: The man knows how to draw clicks.

It’s hard to avoid an article with the headline: “Stock Market Crash of 2016: The Countdown Begins.”

While many seasoned consumers of financial journalism might be inclined to dismiss an article with such a bombastic headline right off the bat, I’m always willing to at least consider the arguments behind such a claim.

If such a crash is a year off, it’s important to start preparing. A 50% decline in stock-market value is a sharper drop than we endured in 2008.

Fortunately for long investors everywhere, there is little about the article that should send anyone cashing out of stocks...

[snip]

...The bigger issue on trial here is the idea that investors should make big asset bets based on bold market forecasts, whether by professional money managers or journalists....

[snip]

...“Sure, they suffered steep losses (and likely lost some serious sleep) as stocks cratered during the financial crisis,” Egan writes. “Yet they also enjoyed a dramatic rebound in U.S. stocks as the system stabilized. The S&P 500 is up over 200% since the bottoming out in March 2009.”

He adds that it may be tempting to stay on the sidelines. However, holding too much cash for fear of a market crash will almost certainly cause you to miss extended periods when markets perform well.
 

 

 

More precision confusion from experienced professionals:

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This is the thread where folks swap ideas on savings and investment --here's a list of popular investing links that freepers have posted here and tomorrow morning we'll go on with our--

Open invitation continues always for idea-input for the thread, this being a joint effort works well.   Keywords: financial, WallStreet, stockmarket, economy.

 



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; financial; stockmarket; wallstreet
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To: expat_panama

Today, Friday, the market sank after good jobs numbers were released. The market fears this indicates a rate hike by the Fed will happen sometime in 2015. Duh! Yes there will be a rate hike, but not until after September and even with a hike the stock market will see gains. I think the big guys in the market make these 100 point swings as they make money every time we suckers panic & dump or feel good & buy back in. I say buy good stuff and sit on it, if you use a trailing stop, make it for 20% so you don’t lose it on a little bump down.


81 posted on 03/06/2015 11:41:42 AM PST by RicocheT (us)
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82 posted on 03/06/2015 12:00:24 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

They had Ron Wayne on some news program today asking about his thoughts on Apple replacing AT&T on the Dow. One thing he said that was quite amusing was that it was a bit ironic that Bell Labs invented the transistor and now was getting replaced by a young company that was built on their technology. ;^)


83 posted on 03/06/2015 12:24:49 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor

The transistor is the fundamental building block of modern electronic devices, and is ubiquitous in modern electronic systems. Following its development in 1947 by American physicists John Bardeen, Walter Brattain, and William Shockley, the transistor revolutionized the field of electronics, and paved the way for smaller and cheaper radios, calculators, and computers, among other things. The transistor is on the list of IEEE milestones in electronics,[1] and the inventors were jointly awarded the 1956 Nobel Prize in Physics for their achievement.[2]

IMO, the transistor is as important an invention as was the audion (the first vacuum tube) by Lee de Forest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_de_Forest


84 posted on 03/06/2015 4:17:55 PM PST by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: abb

Thanks. It is an amazing ole world we live in. To think we are just one discovery away from the next REVOLUTIONARY change in the way stuff works.


85 posted on 03/06/2015 5:15:04 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Which is why mere politicians can and will be overcome by the spirit of discovery and entrepreneurship.

Never, ever sell the American Spirit short.

Never.


86 posted on 03/06/2015 5:45:34 PM PST by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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