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Texas Ebola nurse says hospital failed her and her colleagues
MSN World News ^ | March 1 2015 | REUTERS

Posted on 03/01/2015 1:52:31 PM PST by CorporateStepsister

The first person infected with Ebola in the United States, nurse Nina Pham, said she was used for publicity purposes by her hospital, which also invaded her privacy and did not properly train her, the Dallas Morning News reported on Sunday.

Pham, 26, told the newspaper that chaos hit the Dallas hospital when it admitted Thomas Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States after he contracted it in Liberia. Nurses were ill prepared and received little guidance on how to treat Ebola or protect themselves.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: dallas; ebola; hospital; liberia; ninapham; nurse; privacy; treatment; unitedstates
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To: CorporateStepsister
The closest thing to an excuse I can think of for suboptimal care in this case (if the care *was* suboptimal) is a lack of effective communication on the part of top brass.I worked for years at a very famous hospital affiliated with a very famous medical school.There,a phone call would have been made to a faculty member of the medical school and he/she would have given very detailed info regarding treatment options.In fact,he/she would have become deeply involved in that patient's care.

Presumably the Dallas hospital is also affiliated with a medical school (just about every large hospital is).

21 posted on 03/01/2015 2:57:38 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Lower Morals)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Sorry, but I’ve seen the original recommendations provided by CDC for dealing with Ebola patients. Following their PPE recommendations would almost guarantee contracting the disease. Among other interesting things, it recommended taking off globes first and then removing the rest of your equipment with bare hands!...”
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Sorry, I don’t believe this...even for the idiotic Obama regime bureaucrats. This sounds more like an urban legend. Do you have a link?


22 posted on 03/01/2015 3:01:47 PM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: House Atreides

I’ll try to find the link in Google cache, but CDC took down the webpage.

But I can guarantee you the story is true. In CDC’s (partial) defense, the directions were not sent directly to this hospital, they were posted on their website.

In their non-defense, they sent this poster to all hospitals in the US. A friend of mine who works at a hospital was tasked by the head nurse to take them around and give one to each nurse. He took the opportunity, on his own hook, to explain to them why the directions were not even close to being adequate.


23 posted on 03/01/2015 3:07:10 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: House Atreides

Nope, not an urban legend.
http://news.yahoo.com/cdc-rethinking-ebola-guidelines-after-criticism-they-left-nurses-unprotected-190206817.html

http://www.scilogs.com/tenacious-telomere/ebola-protective-gear-rules-were-vague/

The hospital administrators should have immediately consulted with infection control MDs, and even I, a lowly nurse knows that you must wear full body protection with Ebola.


24 posted on 03/01/2015 3:12:45 PM PST by kaila
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To: Sherman Logan

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cdc-deletes-healthcare-worker-protection-guidelines-missing-two-days_816500.html


25 posted on 03/01/2015 3:14:14 PM PST by kaila
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To: House Atreides

Found it!

http://twitchy.com/2014/10/19/orwellian-whitewash-cdc-deletes-faulty-ebola-guidelines-poster-paging-ebola-czar/

Posted it on FR at the time, and got something like a dozens responses even though CDC was quite literally instructing people to do things that would get them infected. Nobody here or elsewhere seemed to care. An amazing smoking gun and everybody missed it. A true urban legend, if you will.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3216935/posts


26 posted on 03/01/2015 3:15:50 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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27 posted on 03/01/2015 3:25:47 PM PST by RedMDer (Keep Free Republic Alive with YOUR Donations!)
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To: CorporateStepsister

The CDC is the guidelines that hospitals use in a case like Ebola. The guidelines were not adequate, period. The hospital is liable as their guidelines that were the CDC guidelines were not adequate but the nurse was their employee. Though morally innocent, the hospital is legally guilty.

The real problem is the CDC guidelines have become political as opposed to rational medical care and isolation and denial of entry from “Hot Zones.”

Thank you Obama, for this insanity.


28 posted on 03/01/2015 3:26:27 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: dinodino; kaila

See post #20. I read the Dallas Morning News article and the nurses were left to fend for themselves at the beginning, having to search on line for proper protection from exposure. She also comforted Duncan, held his hand and was on-duty when he died. She saw up front what the disease could do and was of course extremely frightened when she contacted it. She may have long term effects from the disease and never may completely recover.

http://res.dallasnews.com/interactives/nina-pham/


29 posted on 03/01/2015 3:45:33 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: CorporateStepsister
What a load of one sided propaganda that we read now.
That left wing rag in Dallas literally peddles a pathetic PR piece with photos of the poor victim!
Do the trial lawyers NOW own that left wing rag in Dallas?

This shows the Dem party media complex total control by the Dem's major donors namely Trial lawyers , the vermin of the world.

The US media is a complete joke and nothing more than carefully packages lies and spin.

30 posted on 03/01/2015 3:51:15 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: CedarDave
What a pathetic hit piece that reads like her Trial lawyer wrote it.
31 posted on 03/01/2015 3:52:52 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Sherman Logan

Jeez, Obama’s bureaucrats’ stupidity exceeds even by expectations. Wearing a single pair of gloves is moderately stupid to begin with, but then to have instructions to take that single pair of gloves off BEFORE using the hands to remove the other protective gear takes it into another dimension of stupidity.


32 posted on 03/01/2015 3:53:36 PM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: CedarDave
Pham said she has a lot of anxiety about the possible long-term effects of Ebola and the experimental drugs. She’s been told to look out for possible sensory changes, vision loss and organ failure. Pham previously had complications with high levels of enzymes in her liver, and she’s concerned the problem has reappeared. She said that she can’t even have a glass of wine with dinner now without getting sick. Some of her hair has started to fall out. A doctor at NIH told her that was caused by Ebola, she said.
33 posted on 03/01/2015 3:55:11 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: House Atreides

Yup. I’m not even an expert in the field, but when my friend sent the poster to me I just couldn’t believe it.

The poster is reasonably good direction for PPE in very light duty situations.

Not adequate, to put it mildly, for one of the most deadly and infectious diseases on the planet.

I must say these nurses didn’t exactly cover themselves with glory, doing dangerous and stupid things and then saying, “That’s what the managers told us to do.”

While no doubt true, it’s not like it’s all that difficult to get information about PPE for Ebola. What, 10 seconds on Google?

Also, as stated, I’m no specialist in the area. Probably neither are you. Yet both of us immediately spotted serious flaws in the instructions.

Why didn’t the nurses? These are presumably intensive-care nurses with a lot more training in these areas than I have.

BTW, I don’t know whether these were the directions given these specific nurses. I do know these were handed out at most if not all US hospitals and were up on the CDC website labeled as PPE for Ebola for at least six weeks while the whole mess was ongoing.


34 posted on 03/01/2015 4:01:01 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: ncalburt

If your employer, in their negligence- caused you to contract a life threatening disease that eventually can cause chronic pain and blindness- then you might change your tune.
People who had Ebola are now developing vision impairments and joint pain.


35 posted on 03/01/2015 4:04:53 PM PST by kaila
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To: Sherman Logan

The nurses followed instructions because they were young. 26 or 27 years old.If they were a 40 year old nurse, they would have questioned authority immediately.


36 posted on 03/01/2015 4:06:38 PM PST by kaila
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To: Gasshog

I wouldn’t have had this problem because as soon as they told me what was wrong with him and that I was going to treat him.........oh hell no!


37 posted on 03/01/2015 4:07:46 PM PST by sheana
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To: kaila

Which brings up the interesting question of why they put inexperienced nurses on the most high-profile case in the nation.


38 posted on 03/01/2015 4:07:54 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
There was a time that the US would not allow people with contagious conditions to enter the US.

Mr. Duncan had no symptoms indicating he had a contagious condition when he entered the country.

39 posted on 03/01/2015 4:10:42 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: CorporateStepsister

If the hospital did so poor of work, why is that in Dallas there was only 1 death and the 2 that contracted the most dire consequences lived to tell about it? Come now tell us that the hospital did not do enough! Go away just go away. How ridiculous, she should be thanking God that she is alive yet today


40 posted on 03/01/2015 4:10:44 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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