How to solve the DHS funding issue

self | 3/1/2015 | learner

[kaehurowing]

Just let the Democrats shut down DHS, and then pass a resolution urging states to activate their own state militias (not national guard) to do what DHS used to do. That ought to have the Rats p-ing in their pants.

[kristinn]

Won’t work. Precedent from Clinton’s Kosovo war: Court found that Congress approved war by funding it even though Congress voted down a resolution authorizing.

[for-q-clinton]

How about Congress only gives 3 day extensions to fund it. Then the only debate each and everyday will be this issue... Including weekends. Eventually the rats will get tired. But unfortunately it will be the Republicans who quit first.

[Omaha Note]

Just let the Democrats shut down DHS, and then pass a resolution urging states to activate their own state militias (not national guard) to do what DHS used to do.

Meanwhile . . . back in the real world . . .

[maddog55]

Sense of the congress.. means nothing anyway.. much like congress period.

[BobL]

...and the KEY THING is that the Democrats WILL NOT do that.

They had their chance Friday. The House had just voted down (thanks to Pelosi, mainly) the 3-week extension (because they didn’t get the full-year funding), and the Republicans were not (yet) ready to cave to Obama.

It looked like a shutdown...for sure. But then, after REJECTING the 3 week shutdown, the Dems decided a week shutdown was ok? No, the Dems knew they could NEVER JUSTIFY a shutdown in defense of the President...and therefore they prevented the shutdown.

In other words, the Dems WILL NOT permit a shutdown and will AGREE TO ANYTHING to keep DHS running. The BIG QUESTION is whether the Republicans can figure that out.

I’m not too optimistic, unfortunately.

[Don_Ret_USAF]

Shut down DHS (no funding). Then have them sell all that ammo and guns that they have, to pay their worker. Just like many family’s had to do these last 9 years because of so few jobs available for work.

Don

[USCG SimTech]

A YES VOTE to provide funding is absolutely no difference from a YES VOTE for legalizing these foreign invaders.

(Notice I don’t give the left the semantic ammo of parallel terminology calling them illegal immigrants since they shift words around to frame the right as racists with it)

[Enlightened1]

Bingo!

[Liz]

Obama and Secy Jeh Johnson are running DHS as a criminal enterprise. Johnson and Obama have NO authority to nullify federal laws that don't serve their personal agenda.

These govt factotums need to be made to understand that in America the govt conforms to the will of the people---not the other way around.

OBAMA GOVT THREATENS US CITIZENS: DHS Secy Jeh Johnson used his govt office to issue threats that would undermine US ntl security and endanger US citizens----Johnson said if Congress didn’t send President Obama the DHS funding bill that he wanted (rubber-stamping executive amnesty), federal grants allocated to local and state public safety agencies by law would not be delivered –.

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REFERENCE Sheriff Justin Smith, Larimer County Colorado's Facebook post responded to, what he considers, are "veiled threats" issued from the govt office of DHS' Jeh Johnson to all police chiefs and sheriffs around the country.

MEMO TO L/E UNDER DHS THREATS: Sheriff Justin Smith and nationwide L/E, police chiefs and sheriffs due federal grants need to act now:

The Bank Secrecy Act must be mobilized----to follow the paper trail and determine how DHS govt monies changes hands; to determine the scope and dimension of collusion in sub rosa deals (and who might be personally profiting).

<><> L/E needs to examine DHS and its related agencies' bank accounts.

<><> Joint bank accounts might be used to facilitate the transfer funds from one account to another, and/or wire- transferred offshore;

<><> To cover their tracks, DHS insiders might create fake invoices to show that govt money deposited into accounts was being used for legitimate and constitutional purposes.

<><> Financial schemes scheme might be advanced by issuing phony statements of payments from financial sources that actually covered the transfer of funds for insiders' personal use and/or for redistribution schemes.

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We demand the immediate defunding of this dangerous organization---the Dept of Homeland Security.

[Liz]

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REFERENCE: Homeland Security seeks $41.2 billion budget for 2016
February 4, 2015 6:30 AM By BioPrepWatch Reports

Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson announced a $41.2 billion budget request Monday for the 2016 fiscal year.

The budget would improve the unity of effort at the department, Johnson said, focusing on “harmonizing DHS business processes.” Along with the budget, a new Common Appropriations Structure was also submitted to Congress, which would standardize financial planning, programming and budgets for all DH agencies, Johnson said.

There are five areas the department focuses on each year, and the budget is in alignment with those five missions, Johnson said. The first mission is to prevent terrorism and enhance security in the country by implementing security for the land, air and at sea.

The next mission is to secure and manage the country’s borders, and reduce the number of illegal immigrants and amount of contraband getting into the United States. The third mission includes enforcing and administering immigration laws and providing safe and secure detention of illegal immigrants in federal custody if they are a flight risk or a public safety concern.

The fourth mission deals with safeguarding and securing cyberspace, which impacts economic security. The 2016 budget would invest in technology and staff to reduce cybercrime and improve the security of federal network defenses.

The fifth mission, Johnson said, is to strengthen national preparedness and resilience so the country can prepare and respond to any type of disaster. <> Johnson said before Congress approves any funding for the next fiscal year lawmakers should approve funding for the current year.

“The President’s FY 2016 Budget provides the resources necessary for the Department of Homeland Security to further strengthen our efforts to fulfill our wide-ranging missions, while also being agile and vigilant in the face of ever-evolving threats and recent world events,” Johnson said. “But prior to acting on the FY 2016 Budget, I urge Congress to fully fund DHS for the rest of this fiscal year, as the current continuing resolution is disruptive, creates uncertainty, and impedes efficient resource planning and execution.”

SOURCE http://bioprepwatch.com/news/homeland-security-seeks-41-2-billion-budget-for-2016/340791/

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[bert]

having said all that, what is the recourse?

there is none and until Obama is gone, there will be none

Absent 2/3 of the votes in the senate, or a coup, there is no controlling Obama

Where is our Brutus?

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Airport security should be hosted by the airlines.

[bonehead4freedom]

Here’s how to fund all Federal Departments and Agencies, your budget starts at $0 every year. The bureaucrats in charge will be required to appear in front of Congress BEFORE ONE PENNY IS AUTHORIZED and have to explain how much they need and what it’s for. If they spend their full allotment in an attempt to expand their budget then the Department or Agency will be cut 10% across the board the following year and the top 25 bureaucrats in charge will have their salaries cut by 15%. We could also have Congress defund any Department or Agency that is nonessential. This of course requires an actual conservative party and leadership running Congress so the chances of this occurring with the Republicans in charge is laughable. We need a real conservative third party as an option, one we will have conservatism represented and fought for and two as the Republicans fade they will either jump on board or go to their true ideological home the Democratic Socialist People’s Party.

[Georgia Girl 2]

If Congress does not have the will to defund illegal, unconstitutional activity then why bother with what amounts to a resolution? Pointless.

We put these quislings in office to stop or at least slow Obama down. Not collude with him.