Posted on 03/10/2015 11:16:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Good point. An EMP wouldn’t kill enough people directly to draw much response from a transformed America. President O’Malley would launch an apology tour.
EMP won’t cause the absolute destruction of America but a decent chunk there of. The Persians have been practicing quite a bit with getting just the right altitude with missiles and the trajectories look like it would sail something straight up our southern border. Last I read, we aren’t monitoring much on the southern border these days (but its been a while since I have looked into that).
Yes
Yea, he was creative back in the 80’s when he said the western world was in Jeopardy from unfettered and unchecked illegal immigration by showing the birth rate disparities that will happen.
PB’s last 3 OP EDs have been pretty low quality, considering the quality PB has delivered in the past.
I do believe he’s gone old and lost some brain power.
PB say’s “Why would Iran test and build a nuclear bomb, when this would set off a nuclear arms race across the Middle East and put Iran in mortal peril of being smashed by the United States, or by Israel with a preemptive strike?”
Is strikingly ignorant and I’m surprised he went with that.
If Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia wants the U.S back in the region, then they need to grant concessions, gobs of money and other economic considerations.
If we’re going to be the world police, we ought to at least get paid for it.
I'm not convinced of that.
I haven't seen a good argument for fighting them at all.
The only question the US should ask is: If they take over the entire Middle East, will they sell the oil at fair market rates?
Iran is an entirely different story. They pose an existential threat to the current world order. They cannot be allowed to obtain a nuke, even if we have to nuke them.
Bitter old childless antisemite Pat will cheerlead for any enemy of Israel.
You make the same mistake Buchanan does, believing that these people think like we do, and make decisions based on what is in their best interests. They don’t. They are an apocalyptic theocracy, just like ISIS aspires to be, just with a slightly different interpretation of the end times events that they aspire to be a key part of. That’s their goal, not self-preservation.
Buchanan is writing that America does not want another war. No one has made the case that America should get into another war. War might be in the interest of some other countries so let them make war with their own resources if it is that important. Leave us alone. We are not the world’s policeman.
Well of course since their primary enemy is the same as Buchanan’s. The Jews.
A genuine debbie downer imbecilic nutter.
Of course they want the bomb. At this point the bomb is the international equivalent to a car in high school, it means you’re one of the big boys, playing on the real stage, a country that matters. You can talk all you want about the bad things that happen to them if they get it and why they really shouldn’t want it, but in the end everybody wants to be one of the cool kids. And cool kids have the bomb.
You’re correct of course.
Does Israel have submarines that can launch cruise missiles with atomic warheads?
My view is that if Iran nukes Israel, it would wipe out Israel but there definitely wouldn’t be any Iran left either.
The EMP threat is grossly and ridiculously overrated. It is, quite simply, fiction sold by fear mongers and bought by people who don’t understand the math of altitude. They do NOT have the launch vehicles for a US busting EMP... hell at this juncture WE don’t have the launch vehicles for a US busting EMP.
I don’t know if they have the sub. Of course when Iran gets a nuke they’ll learn the joy of MAD. Honestly the most dangerous part of them having nukes isn’t any kind of “open” missile or bomb strike. It’s the souped up “now with radiation” terrorist strike, a lot harder to trace back to any particular nation.
No doubt they preach that BS to the useful idiot troops, but the top guys are no rush to meet their virgins.
“No doubt they preach that BS to the useful idiot troops, but the top guys are no rush to meet their virgins.”
On the contrary, in Iran, the most fanatical believers are the ones at the top. Sure, they personally would rather not be the cannon fodder on the front lines, but they certainly believe in the apocalyptic propaganda that they preach. To think otherwise would be a grave mistake.
I'm not convinced of that.
I haven't seen a good argument for fighting them at all.
The only question the US should ask is: If they take over the entire Middle East, will they sell the oil at fair market rates?
Iran is an entirely different story. They pose an existential threat to the current world order. They cannot be allowed to obtain a nuke, even if we have to nuke them.
Where's your convincing argument? Having ISIS in control of a large swath of the Middle East and sending terrorists to the West or inspiring people living in the West to commit terror acts is serious business. Where's the evidence that right now Iran is anywhere near as much of a threat?
It's a country, sure, rather than a gang of gunmen or terrorists, but that may actually mean that they're more likely to be swayed by rational considerations and less of a threat than ISIS.
pat bucanan is a moron..
he needs to go away,,
Iran has been the worlds #1 state sponsor of terrorism for the last 40 years. Hizbollah. IED's in Iraq that killed 100's of US troops and maimed thousands.
And now they pursue nukes.
Yes, they are a FAR greater threat than ISIS.
ISIS is little more than a violent street gang, easily dispensed by any modern army.
As for them sending terrorists abroad, they will do that whether they control a street corner in Tikrit or all of Mesopotamia and the Arabian peninsula.
Still, they are little more than a violent street gang because they don't have any sophisticated capabilities.
Iran has the same motives and goals...but with FAR more capability.
ISIS is not now and will likely never be a existential security threat to the USA or any other modern state.
PB has more than MADE IT CLEAR that he prefers that Israel would simply “go away”, so nothing new here in his support for Iran (the country that has the best chance of accomplishing that dream).
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