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Jeb Bush, Scott Walker emerging as front-runners for GOP nod — and rivals
Washington Post ^ | March 10, 2015 | Ed O'Keefe and Robert Costa

Posted on 03/10/2015 11:58:50 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 03/11/2015 2:18:54 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

"..Bush and Walker

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; election2016; florida; gope; gopprimary; jebbush; marcorubio; scottwalker; wisconsin
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....Appearing soon after at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor,
Walker told reporters he disagreed with the assessment by Bush
******[see Bush's comments linked above in the text]....

Now watch Walker's appearance at the CSM breakfast mentioned in today's WaPo article above.

June 14, 2012 - C-SPAN: Walker at Christian Science Breakfast **** CSM's opening question to Walker about Bush's hit on the conservative wing of the GOP @ 6:23 Mark.

Walker said Bush is a friend - then aims his remarks at "Romney and others in the party".......Referendum on Carter.....Candidate Reagan's question - 'Are we better off today than we were four years ago?' - Reagan's Vision: limited government, lower taxes, strong defense;...... referendum on current president and a vision, tell Romney and others in the party why you need somebody new..... you need a vision and a message;

Q: you said to the Chamber of Commerce that it's a false choice between cutting taxes and cutting services - that it's not spending more money but spending it more wisely [Then comes Walker's reply - this is a good section as he described what they're doing in WI - his detail and delivery shows he's an executive who knows how it's done].

Next question - in his answer he goes after Romney and contrasts wings of the party. This is all interesting - so refreshing to hear.... private sector growth, government frugality...

16:00 now talking about workers and their complaints to him about unions.

Q: about Gov. Scott (FL) voter ID and the situation in WI [WI Voter ID passed and court blocked it but is still working through the courts and should be upheld]

I'm still listening to the exchange and will post this now [full Q &A is 58:00 in length].

He's giving them an earful. Walker knows how to stay on message and get his points across.

Jeb and Hillary [anyone] will have great difficulty debating this guy.

1 posted on 03/10/2015 11:58:51 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All

A preemptive post:

Let the market decide.

...”Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said he would continue the subsidies for now but phase them out once ethanol producers are assured access to markets. “I think eventually you can get to that,” he said. “But you can’t get to that unless you deal with market access.”...

http://www.heraldnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20150308/NEWS02/150309249/Agriculture-summit-splits-GOP-2016-field-&template=MobileArt

“...Saturday’s forum also was an opportunity for likely contenders to display knowledge of rural issues and connect with Iowa’s farmers. Walker waxed nostalgic about growing up as the son of a Baptist preacher in the small Iowa town of Plainfield, where he said he learned that “farming isn’t just a business, it’s a way of life.”....

“I support biofuels and ethanol. ... I also don’t think Washington should be picking winners and losers,” Cruz said. ...

Walker said that he favored drawing down federal tax credits for wind power over time and opposed mandatory labeling of foods made from genetically modified crops. This is one of those where I believe it’s served its purpose,” Walker said of the credits. “I would support phasing that out over a period of time.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3265522/posts


2 posted on 03/11/2015 12:02:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
....... I suggest, even if it is only for this one single political race ..... Why don't the GOP contenders .... WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM .... and not as a destructional force to destroy each other ..... Work together to destroy the OPFOR (Opposition Force) instead of each other.

..... Together we stand .... Divided we fall ......

.... In this nation at this present time .... We Are Falling.

3 posted on 03/11/2015 12:05:35 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who were the “frontrunners” in March of 2007 and March of 2011? I rest my case.


5 posted on 03/11/2015 12:12:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: R_Kangel

You know darn good and well that Jeb Bush and the Bush Machine are working 24/7 behind the scenes to weaken Walker, while saying things like you just did. In fact they quote Jeb saying almost the same thing, “I’m not going to tear down my fellow Republicans — that doesn’t help,” - so that he can look “presidential.”

What WE need to recognize are tactics [listed below] used by our ideological foes on conservative forums. They pick our candidates off one by one until the GOP-e candidate gobbbles up enough states [those open primaries, that the GOPe favors, hurt conservatives and we need to fight early and often].


Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals

1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.

2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.

3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.

7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.

8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

10. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

11. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

12. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions


6 posted on 03/11/2015 12:17:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Who were the “frontrunners” in March of 2007 and March of 2011? I rest my case.

And who won in 2008 and 2012?

I rest my case.

7 posted on 03/11/2015 12:18:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; 2ndDivisionVet
It's wide open.

I rest my case....

:-)

8 posted on 03/11/2015 12:22:19 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

Did Walker ever figure out which side of immigration reform, amnesty and the border he’s on?


9 posted on 03/11/2015 12:32:22 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

He’s poll and focus group testing it as we speak, I’m sure.


10 posted on 03/11/2015 12:41:05 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I just love how the leftist/communist rags like WaPo try to tell us who our front runners are. /sarc


11 posted on 03/11/2015 12:42:27 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh, thank you, Washington Post, for telling us simpletons who we are supposed to vote for.


12 posted on 03/11/2015 12:49:48 AM PDT by Washi
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Giuliani was comfortably ahead of the polls in February 2007. He ended up not winning even a single state primary.


13 posted on 03/11/2015 1:29:51 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: R_Kangel
We CANNOT work with Jeb!! He is the establishment's Plan B if hillary becomes even less electable. Scott Walker is a bit suspect for supporting funding stadiums with tax money and for supporting ethanol. He's got to prove his new commitment to ending and reversing the invasion of the US. Unless he unfriends Jeb, we have to worry that he might be another Chamber of Commerce guy, with no voting record to prove otherwise.

I like Walker's resume, a lot. But let's face it. They CAN'T all work together. There's the guys that do the establishment status quo's work and there's those that are true constitutional conservatives who want to try to save the US. It's absurd that we're even in the same political party after the past few years and the open warfare against conservatives and Constitutional values.

14 posted on 03/11/2015 2:18:51 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania; All
The material posted from the WaPo article has been edited down by the FR moderator. To help with the confusion, below is the link to the article referenced in the WaPo piece and explains my Comment #1. Be sure to read the WaPo piece for clarity.

The snippet above is misleading.

Jeb Bush Questions G.O.P.’s Shift to the Right

15 posted on 03/11/2015 2:40:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Jeb is the media’s pick, not the people’s.


16 posted on 03/11/2015 3:02:04 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: b4its2late

Reading the article, O’Keefe and Costa seem to be well on the side of Bush as the repubs and the demodummie medias nomination. I challenge anyone to dispute that.

When Walker changes his mind about issues, it would seem to me he is paying closer attention to those issues he initially supported. How many of you, who thought something was a good idea at first blush, eventually changed your minds once you got the full story? Happens all the time.


17 posted on 03/11/2015 3:47:16 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: b4its2late

You’re right.

Jeb is the MSM’s and the GOPe’s pick.


18 posted on 03/11/2015 3:47:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There is no way on God’s green earth that Jeb Bush could fairly be described as a “front runner”.


19 posted on 03/11/2015 3:48:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. .)
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To: grania
Scott Walker is a bit suspect for supporting funding stadiums with tax money and for supporting ethanol.

Neither of which is true.

Stadium funding puts no burden on the taxpayer. The jock tax pays for the bonds. If they try to move the team, the owners must pay the bonds off first. It is part of the contract.

Walker supports phasing out ethanol subsidies while opening the markets to ethanol producers. You see, ethanol producers cannot sell their product into the fuels market legally. The EPA program is the only vehicle for ethanol sales as fuels. Walker's plan is to allow ethanol producers to sell into the market as the subsidies get phased out. This is a great compromise that will ensure it gets enough votes in Congress. It is thoughtful, creative legislation rather than a hammer. It demonstrates Walker's ability to enact conservatism and capitalism while gaining support politically for conservatism and capitalism.

20 posted on 03/11/2015 3:49:08 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Walker/Cruz 2016)
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