If I am to hang my halo on caring about the erf,
Then the erf must be at risk.
The conditional is the primary “truth” for sheeperal,
therefore the conclusion follows.
Sandy wasn’t a 3?
The article in which that interview appeared summarized Edenhofer's views this way: "Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection. ... The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world's resources will be negotiated."
Global warming, climate change, rapid climate change... Whatever the hucksters are calling it now... I haven't heard anyone, on any side of this (including the rabidly indifferent) claim the climate isn't changing. (ie. there is no such thing as a "denier" - never heard one, not a one) I think anyone with an IQ above room temperature who thinks about it for more than a commercial's worth of time realizes that the climate is changing. Not only that, but the climate has always been changing since there was a climate to change.
Now comes the three big spins/issues on that. First, ok, the climate is changing. Is it "rapid" climate change? What is that, exactly, and how is that different from weather? Ok, maybe that's easy to differentiate - it is trends. Ok, "rapid" climate change is trends, not typical variability and seasonal changes. So what differentiates a "rapid" climate change trend from simple normal short to medium term fluctuations? Why is your sliding window average better than mine? Why do you think it is predictive of ongoing trends given it's short time constant? That's far tougher, I don't think they have an answer for that.
The second issue/spin they try is that man is causing climate change. Wow, even though statistical analysis shows no real correlation between CO2 and global mean temperature. But we and our evil fossil fuels are somehow now responsible? Really? Haven't we accepted the fact that the climate has been changing for millions, even billions of years? We come along and now we're causing it? What caused it before that suddenly went away so that we could now be the cause? Tell you what globul warmers, I'll let you get back to me on that, let's move on.
The third issue/spin point is actually several inter-related issues. This is the "suppose I buy your line of BS..." problem. So the climate is changing - check. Doesn't matter if it is relatively slow or "rapid" we want to do something about it - check. Doesn't matter if it is man-caused, man-exacerbated, or not - check. Ok sparky, tell me what technologies exist for actually changing climate, what information database exists on how to do it, how all the millions of inter-related geologic, biologic, oceanographic, and atmospheric systems inter-relate and react. (you're not planning on just trying shi...er..."stuff" until something works, right?) and exactly what the "right" climate is. For extra fun, tell me why holding the climate in artificial stasis is a good idea when all of nature seems to abhor stagnation.
The net of this is, all of the "climate this or that" is nothing but one big scam. From the politically motivated power-mongers to those simply looking to turn a buck, it is a little bit of science mixed in with a whole lotta BS.
Yep, climate change is a fact. We warmed out of the last ice age over the past 10-12,000 or more years. If we hang around long enough we’ll cool back into the next one. There’s not a damned thing we can do to change it a single iota.
” Global Warming....is there ANYTHING it doesn’t cause ? “