Dick Cheney accused Obama of 'playing the race card' in a Playboy interview

businessinsider.com ^ | 3/18/2015 | Colin Campbell

[1Old Pro]

People who have done Playboy interviews:
Playboy magazine turns 50 next year, but its famous Q&A interview turns 40 next month. Here’s a list of some those interview subjects over the years.

1962: Miles Davis, Jackie Gleason, Peter Sellers

1963: Frank Sinatra, Helen Gurley Brown, Malcolm X, Billy Wilder, Jimmy Hoffa

1964: Vladimir Nabokov, Ayn Rand, Jean Genet, Ingmar Bergman, Salvador Dali, Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali)

1965: Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., The Beatles, Sean Connery, Al Capone

1966: Princess Grace (Kelly), Federico Fellini, Bob Dylan, Sammy Davis Jr.

1967: Fidel Castro, Orson Welles, Woody Allen, Johnny Carson

1968: Alex Haley, Truman Capote, Ralph Nader

1969: Marshall McLuhan, Lee Marvin, Gore Vidal, Bill Cosby, Joe Namath

1970: Ray Charles, Tiny Tim, Joan Baez, William Kunstler

1971: Mae West, John Wayne, George McGovern, Charles Evers

1972: Howard Cosell, Germain Greer, Sam Peckinpah, Jack Nicholson

1973: Joe Frazier, Tennessee Williams, Walter Cronkite, Pete Rozelle

1974: Clint Eastwood, Groucho Marx, Hank Aaron, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt

1975: Billie Jean King, Dustin Hoffman, Joseph Heller, Erica Jong

1976: Elton John, Norman Lear, David Bowie, Robert Altman, Jimmy Carter

1977: Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Saturday Night Live cast, Barbra Streisand

1978: Don Meredith, David Frost, Anita Bryant, Sylvester Stallone, Geraldo Rivera

1979: Marlon Brando, Neil Simon, Pete Rose, Al Pacino

1980: Steve Martin, Gay Talese, George C. Scott, G. Gordon Liddy

1981: John and Yoko Ono, Ed Asner, Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, James Michener

1982: George Carlin, Lech Walesa, Billy Joel, Luciano Pavarotti

1983: Dudley Moore, Gabriel Garcia Marqez, Sam Donaldson, Ansel Adams

1984: Paul Simon, Calvin Klein, Jesse Jackson, Dan Rather, Paul and Linda McCartney

1985: Steven Jobs, 60 Minutes team, Wayne Gretzky, Sting

1986: Dr. Ruth Westheimer, Sally Field, Kathleen Turner, Carl Bernstein

1987: Don Johnson, Imelda and Ferdinand Marcos, John Scully

1988: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Oliver Stone, Don King, Yasser Arafat

1989: Robert De Niro, Tom Hanks, The Irish Republican Army, Gary Kasparov

1990: Tom Cruise, Donald Trump, Quincy Jones, Leona Helmsley

1991: Lee Iacocca, Martin Scorsese, Robert Maxwell, Robin Williams

1992: Lorne Michaels, Liz Smith, Michael Jordan, William Safire, Sharon Stone

1993: Steve Martin, Anne Rice, Barry Bonds, Jerry Seinfeld

1994: David Letterman, Howard Stern, Ron Howard, Bill Gates

1995: Vladimir Zhirinovsky, David Mamet, Joyce Elders, Cindy Crawford

1996: Bruce Willis, Salman Rushdie, Mike Wallace, Nicolas Cage

1997: Saul Bellow, Christopher Walken, Brett Favre

1998: Mike Tyson, Matt Drudge, Jerry Springer, Paul Reiser

1999: Michael Crichton, Samuel L. Jackson, Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.)

2000: Hugh Hefner, Jon Stewart, Pete Rose, Drew Barrymore

2001: Vince McMahon, Bobby Knight, Dale Earnhardt Jr, The West Wing cast

2002: Bill O’Reilly, Brit Hume, Lennox Lewis

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

No big deal. You should read the comments at the link!

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you for the nice response.

When you take out a strong man like Hussein (and his sons), you leave a huge power vacuum. If you go in, take them out, do a half-assed job of cleaning up, then leave, you’re bound to have severe problems as a result.

I’m not happy with who they picked to be the new leader over there. He was far too cozy with Iran for my liking.

Other than that (and admittedly that was a big mistake IMO), I don’t know how you do what they did without some nation building.

This causes you to set up a network of leaders across the nation to administer municipalities, and ones that weren’t big abusers of the public under Hussein.

I always saw Iraq as a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation clear back to the first campaign under Bush I.

We could have easily wound up with some right hand man of Hussein stepping in if we hadn’t done things pretty much the way we did.

I’m sure there are some people who could offer an alternative plan. I’m not convinced they would have been better. I do think Hussien had to go also.

[Veggie Todd]

I’ll have to buy this issue just to read the interview.

[plain talk]

I agree with your assessments. It is easy to criticize after the fact. Bush and company did an excellent job on the Iraq war. That part went quick and was done well. The “keeping the peace” part went on for years and is where it fell apart. However I doubt anyone could have done much better given the people you are dealing with in that country. I was always skeptical that we could ever fix Iraq.

My greater criticism is with the Colin Powell policy of “if you break it you fix it”. It would have been better to break it, let it go and then periodically break it again as needed and leave that hellhole to Iraq to worry about

[fieldmarshaldj]

You can see the decline in the stature of the interviewees in that list over the years.

[DoughtyOne]

I appreciate your comments and find we’re in general agreement regarding Bush’s efforts, but there are two thoughts I’d like to leave you with.

Subsequent to the initial take-out of Saddam Hussein’s command and control, the leveling out of the immediate civilization needs, I think the Bush team fielded an inadequate plan. I don’t think you have to be hyper critical about this, because war efforts are probably very seldom exactly what you think they will be, and we all recognize the problems with extended efforts in Iraq.

Over time we adjusted, and things progressed pretty much to where we wanted them. The hand off to Obama took place, and he withdrew leaving people unprepared to maintain the peace. Massive mistake by Obama, generally agreed upon.

I don’t think it’s prudent to go take out a leader every so often, if that’s exactly what you were intimating. It seems that if you do that, the locals get to set up a defensive mechanism that may cost your people lives each new time.

I also think you create a ‘den of thieves’ situation that deteriorates to the point that all manner of evil emanates from this territory.

I think Bush did it about right. Iraq was stable and non-threatening to it’s neighbors. That’s a decent accomplishment.

Where I fault the Bush administration the most, is it’s demand that Iraq pay back our costs. This would have been simple enough. Over the subsequent couple of decades oil revenues could have more than paid off our costs. We’re talking between $2 and $4 trillion we just ate. Why?

My take is that he agreed to eat it, because the vitriolic Left so tagged him with the war for oil label, that he wanted to avoid that at all cost. Big mistake. The Left will always hate you. Do what’s right.

Thanks for your comments. You’re not alone on your last thought, so I’m not exactly singling you out. I seem to been part of a minority that see things the way I do.

Take care.

[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

Can’t hardly blame Obola - if the only tool in your toolbox is the race card everything looks like a cracker.

[plain talk]

Good points. By breaking it I did not mean take out leaders so much. In fact I wasn’t keen on taking out hussein. I meant that more in context of afghanistan than Iraq really. if a country harbors terrorists that attack NYC they should expect retribution from us.

My point is I don’t think we can fix these countries and probably need to be in the mode of going after terrorists wherever they are, hit them, wipe them out, leave and let the locals deal with it. Agree with your point about the locals hating us. Too bad. I’ve given up on muslims. Screw them.

Yes bush tried to do it right but at some point it turns into a black hole.

[DoughtyOne]

I think Hussein was kind of a time bomb waiting to go off.

If he didn’t do something, he sure could have financed something, to I wasn’t in favor of giving him a pass, and after 09/11 I thought it was time.

I know he wasn’t directly involved so I can understand that argument. On the other hand, he was voicing support for attacks on the U. S. all the time. He wasn’t abiding by sanctions and was causing trouble for our people trying to monitor him.

And then there were the inspections he refused to facilitate properly. He was a real dufus.

At any rate, I can understand your point of view. Thanks for the additional comments.

Take care.

[going hot]

Not a minority at all.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks.