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PA: Negotiations 'Only on Two-State Solution' Basis [Netanyahu & Israel]
Arutz Sheva ^ | Wednesday, March 18, 2015 | Yaakov Levi

Posted on 03/18/2015 6:09:07 PM PDT by Star Traveler

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To: Star Traveler
Well, you’re not as strong a supporter of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as I am! I will support him if he does that!

Of course you will. All the leftists will be happy. It will certainly make John Kerry and Hussein Obama happy too. All your US State Department buddies will be happy too.
21 posted on 03/18/2015 7:08:20 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

Another example of me supporting Netanyahu, when you said I wasn’t a supporter, and yet YOU won’t support him, if that’s what he does!

AND ... you do know that was the position of Netanyahu for many years anyway. SO ... you’re saying you DID NOT SUPPORT NETANYAHU for all those years before, while “I DID”?! ... LOL ...


22 posted on 03/18/2015 7:11:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

No, I did not support Netanyahu’s position at Bar Ilan, that was a left turn for him. Many of us religious Zionists were disappointed, but assumed it was buying-for-time pragmatism.

His move to the right recently was very encouraging.

But I can see why you would get all giddy about thinking he might be veering immediately back to the left. You are going to be disappointed though. Why would Hussein Obama be thinking about forcing Israel back to the table at the UN if Netanyahu was already going to give them what they wanted?

No, you are quite wrong. Again.


23 posted on 03/18/2015 7:20:32 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Star Traveler
Neither Netanyahu, the US, Obama, nor the muslim terrorists will decide what happens in and to the land that God gave in perpetuity to Israel's father Abraham, God settled that matter 4000 years ago. The middle ages church taught that God's promise was negated by Israel's rejection of Jesus as it's promised Messiah, and that the nation of Israel ceased to exist in 70AD when it was destroyed by Rome and it's people were driven from their promised land. But it's teaching was badly mistaken, God's promise was unconditional and He doesn't break His promises.

BTW, the land promised to Abraham is much, much larger than the present state of Israel. Israel's promised land extends from the river of Egypt, aka the Nile, to the Euphrates, see Genesis ch15 v18. That promise seems almost impossible to be fulfilled in today's world, but then so did His promise that Israel's people would be regathered to their God-given homeland after many centuries of exile among all the nations of the world.

24 posted on 03/18/2015 7:23:28 PM PDT by epow (If you don't like the devil's fruit stay out of his garden)
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To: epow

God’s promises to Israel will be fulfilled when the Messiah of Israel returns and sets up his one-world government and rules over the nations from Jerusalem.

In the meantime, many other things can happen and have happened which are contrary to God’s end goal (which he will fulfill completely and totally).

And by the way, if you look on my FReeper page, you’ll see that I’m a Dispensationalist ... :-) ...


25 posted on 03/18/2015 7:28:24 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

I could support that.

That is probably the only “solution” that has a real chance, given the region and populations involved.

From my distinctly USA mixed raced citizen viewpoint: Israel is the designated “reservation” where the Jewish people were forcibly herded, from all over the world.

Unlike other similar (from my viewpoint) tribes, they flourished in a desert, against all odds.
And they continue to succeed in a seemingly never ending fight for their basic human rights.

If other people stopped attacking them, there wouldn’t be a problem.


26 posted on 03/18/2015 7:29:45 PM PDT by sarasmom (Is it time yet?)
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To: Star Traveler
I think we're pretty much in agreement on the matter, so far at least. I happen to believe that the church will be gone from planet Earth at least seven years before Israel gains control of all it's promised land, including the massive chunk of land that it was promised but never occupied.

You may disagree with my belief in a pre-trib rapture, but that's OK. I can disagree with other Christians on that issue without any rancor toward those who think I'm wrong.

27 posted on 03/18/2015 7:49:34 PM PDT by epow (If you don't like the devil's fruit stay out of his garden)
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To: epow

My FReeper page says Pre-Trib ... but really ... is there anyone out there who is a Dispensationalist and not Pre-Trib? ... :-) ...

There probably is, but they’re an EXTREME minority!


28 posted on 03/18/2015 7:54:17 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
I didn't read your FR page before I replied to your post the 1st time, but after reading it I see that you're a "pre-tribber" as I am.

I also see that Georgia isn't one of the states that you have visited. What's keeping you away from GA? Come on down, you'll like it if you steer clear of metro Atlanta, which is as different from the rest of GA as peaches are from oranges.

29 posted on 03/18/2015 8:05:38 PM PDT by epow (If you don't like the devil's fruit stay out of his garden)
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To: epow

One of these days ... :-) ...


30 posted on 03/18/2015 8:06:34 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: sarasmom

If you wish to call it ‘herding’ them, God did that over 4,000 years ago, from what is currently called Iraq into the Holy Land.

If you are referring to modern, 1948 Israel, it is their homeland, from the time of Abraham. Jews were not ‘herded’ into Israel. They were however, ‘herded’ out of Europe into concentration and extermination camps by the Germans in WWII. Perhaps guilt at not preventing this led the UN to establish a Jewish homeland so that there would never be another extermination attempt made.


31 posted on 03/18/2015 8:16:18 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

‘There are over a dozen Muslim nations surrounding Israel; why can’t the “Palestinians” find a home in one of those sh-tholes?’

A better question is, why didn’t we demand a place be set aside for them in Afghanistan or Iraq? We “owned” those countries at one point.


32 posted on 03/18/2015 9:19:48 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: Star Traveler
We've long known what elite political folks in the shadows want as differentiated from the public political speech sponsored by them. The following is about what working class America wants.

Most Americans Support Right of Jews to Live and Build in Judea-Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/927783/posts
June 10, 2003
"By a margin of nearly five to one, Americans oppose the Bush administration's demand to halt all further Jewish construction in Judea-Samaria (the West Bank) and Gaza . . . The poll, carried out by John McLaughlin & Associates, surveyed a scientific sample of 1,000 American adults on May 21, 2003.


33 posted on 03/18/2015 9:25:02 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Tzfat

Do you support Netanyahu now? I do ... as I have always said, I support Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu 100% in his policies and actions!

This explains Netanyahu’s position much better and also explains he has not backed away from his Bar-Ilan speech.

— — —

PM still wants ‘a peaceful two-state solution’

“I don’t want a one-state solution. I want a sustainable, peaceful two-state solution,” Prime Minister Netanyahu tells MSNBC in an interview after the elections.

Trying to clarify his position after the White House said it would draw its own conclusions from his comments on Election Day, in which he ruled out the establishment of a Palestinian state if re-elected, Netanyahu says, “I haven’t changed my policy. I never retracted my speech in Bar-Ilan University calling for a demilitarized Palestinian state that recognizes a Jewish state.”

Netanyahu explains that circumstances have changed since the Bar-Ilan speech was made in 2009.

Walking back pre-vote pitch, PM says he is not a one-stater
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3269694/posts

— — —

I always knew Netanyahu would stick to his long-standing policy, going back years and years. And it didn’t take him long to do that.


34 posted on 03/19/2015 10:03:43 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
Israel is the unquestioned historical homeland for people who can trace their Jewish ancestry.

Since 1948 through today, Jewish people from all over the world are “herded” to Israel, both by government force and by fear.

Nobody has ever explained to me why, amidst all the tribes in the world, Europeans and Middle Easterners always tend to blame the “jews” for all human dysfunction.

35 posted on 03/19/2015 5:31:51 PM PDT by sarasmom (Is it time yet?)
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To: sarasmom

‘...herded by government force and fear...’? What?

Yes, in 1948 Jews were forced from Arab countries into Israel but I am unaware of any Western nation ‘herding’ Jews onto Israel. That ended in 1945 Germany. The Soviets ran various pograms but NEVER ‘herded’ Jews to Israel. In fact emigrating from the USSR was very difficult.

I would appreciate some examples of governments ‘herding’ Jews into Israel, other than already noted during the various moslem-Israeli wars.

AFA why Jews (and now Christians) get blamed for all the world’s problems, simply READ THE BIBLE! The simple answer is, they (and Christians, grafted onto the branch of Jacob) are God’s chosen people. Choose to believe it or not, but there is a spiritual war going on all around us. satan lost for ever, when Christ died and rose again but he is a sore loser. He’ll do ANYTHING to destroy God’s chosen people, so little wonder that Jews (and Christians) are always blamed for all the world’s problems. Because they are always on the receiving end, it is little wonder many move to the only State that is Jewish, where they can protect each other.


36 posted on 03/19/2015 6:08:39 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Your reply is noted, and will be judged on it’s merits.

Have a nice day!


37 posted on 03/19/2015 6:38:27 PM PDT by sarasmom (Is it time yet?)
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