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To: Publius
You know, in the old days, pitch was relative. There was nobody going around with a clipboard and a tuning fork. :-) In fact, the older notation for Gregorian chant HAS no pitch - you just pick your fundamental tone (which is conveniently marked in the notation) according to your choir and your room. And it wasn't written in C so much, just sharps and flats hadn't really been standardized yet. They had something called "musica ficta" (which see) but that was purely seat-of-the-pants and varied from place to place.

You'll see the older stuff (medieval and Renaissance) in modern editions in a variety of pitches, depending on who wrote it down.

Our choirmaster transposes to take advantage of our room (he says the room is the "extra singer" in the ensemble). You have to make adjustments because most American rooms do not have the advantage of 8 foot thick stone walls - which really kills your bass singers because siding just doesn't bounce low tones like thick stone walls do.

We're fortunate to have a very good room - the proportions are correct and although we don't have stone we have brick veneer over poured concrete. Chamber groups and touring singers are always trying to get the church for concerts.

And you notice the bouncing effect more in medieval and Renaissance music because it's written for small ensembles, not the "cast of thousands" that came in with the Romantics. This is a pic of the greatest composer of his day, Johannes Ockeghem (in the glasses), with his choir - all eight of them.

Josquin, by the way, wrote a lament ("deploration") on the death of Ockeghem, who was his master. It really is gorgeous, and the interesting thing is that Josquin pays homage not only with the words, but with the music, imitating some of Ockeghem's characteristic techniques - particularly in the bass lines. Ockeghem was the first to really take advantage of the lowest male voices in ensemble singing - he was noted himself for a very deep and resonant voice.

Deploration sur la mort Johannes Ockeghem ("Nymphes des bois")

Nymphs of the woods, and goddesses of the fountains,
skilled singers from all nations,
change your voices so clear and high into shrill cries and lamentations,
for Atropos, that great satrap,
has caught your Ockeghem in her trap,
[this is an attempt to catch the pun in French]
music's true treasure and masterpiece,
learned and handsome and by no means stout
it is great sorrow that earth must cover him.
Put on your mourning garments,
Josquin, Brumel, Pierchon, Compère, (all great composers)
and weep great tears from your eyes
you have lost your good father.
Grant to them eternal rest, O Lord,
and may perpetual light shine on them.

Cantus firmus: May he rest in peace. Amen.

237 posted on 03/22/2015 10:58:09 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Beautiful That strikes me as being in neither the major nor minor mode, but something more exotic like mixolydian.


239 posted on 03/22/2015 11:07:40 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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