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To: John Valentine

We’re probably mixing terminology here.

It’s not a judicial ‘conviction’. It’s a Impeachment conviction, or simply successful impeachment. If you read below you’ll note that for punishments beyond simple removal from office, there needs to be another Judicial Indictment, trial and so forth.

I’m referencing Article 1, Section 3

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

But things get iffy from Article 2 Section 4

“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

Muddles the issue further with different syntax.

So you’re line of reasoning is correct if you mean impeachment conviction, and my line appears to be correct if you mean judicial conviction.

Please tell me you’re not referencing wikipedia, The entry on the Constitution is one of the worst entries I’ve come across.


38 posted on 03/20/2015 12:39:18 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (If you're not leading, you're struggling to be relevant.)
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To: Usagi_yo

I am referencing my pocket Constitution, Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 5 and Article 1, Section 3, Paragraphs 6 and 7.

And yes, you are correct that I am describing the process of Impeachment, Conviction and Removal from Office as described and established by the Constitution, and not any judicial proceedings that might occur post removal.


39 posted on 03/20/2015 4:04:04 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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