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1 posted on 03/21/2015 8:40:08 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

Just wait until the gay activists go after the main line churches that support traditional marriage. When gay couples ask traditional marriage pastors to bless and conduct a homosexual union, we are going to see lawsuits and probably prison sentences. No doubt, the IRS will deny tax exempt status which would cause many churches to go under and we’ll have jail time for failure to pay taxes. This could get ugly, and I won’t be surprised of there are violent incidents.
Sure, we’ll always have the Joel Osteen type churches that will do whatever the government wants. But, the true remnant will need to go underground.


2 posted on 03/21/2015 9:13:54 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: Oliviaforever

I read her comments in the associated link.

Agree 100%

Then I read the comments. ????? Lots of ‘confusion,’ to be kind.

In fact those comments feel like the beginning germination of what she is talking about.

Martyr - that means death. And I do think things will go that far. Ugliness and persecution first.


3 posted on 03/21/2015 9:22:23 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (an icon of resistance within the oppressed patriots, who represent resilience in the face of SSV)
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To: Oliviaforever; All

As mentioned in related threads, we can probably ultimately blame the widespread uncertainty with how pro-gay activist justices are going to decide gay marriage on the ill-conceived 17th Amendment (17A), state lawmakers foolishly giving up the voices of state lawmakers by ratifying that amendment.

Please bear with the following analysis of gay marriage and 17A.

With all due respect to mom & pop, as a consequence of her parents likely not making sure that she was taught about 10th Amendment-protected state powers versus constitutionally unprotected “rights,” the religious broadcaster is seemingly going into a panic mode with respect to pro-gay activist justices wrongy politically “amending” the so-called right to gay marriage to the Constitution from the bench.

More specifically, she probably does not know that activist judges have been wrongly ignoring that the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect gay marriage. So since judges and justices actually have no constitutionally enumerated gay rights to throw at the states via the 14th Amendment, the states are free to do the following.

The states are free to make laws which discriminate against constitutionally unprotected gay marriage, as long as such laws don’t also unreasonably abridge constitutionally enumerated rights.

And a hopefully growing number of partriots who are wising up to judicial corruption at least now have some hope that the Supreme Court’s decision about gay marriage is not necessarily going to be the final word on that issue.

Regarding 17A and gay marriage, if the states legislatures still controlled the Senate then there would probably be all different faces on the Supreme Court right now, justices more protective of 10th Amendment-protected state sovereignty, including the constitutionally unchecked power of the states to prohibit gay marriage.

In the meanwhile, patriots have a lot of work to do to restore the constitutional republic, making 17A disappear hopefully towards the top of the list.


7 posted on 03/21/2015 10:24:35 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Oliviaforever

Sure as hell I am not going to be a martyr.

If it comes to it I’ll be a fighter. I’m not content to just lay it down.


8 posted on 03/21/2015 10:57:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Oliviaforever

I’ve already decided that I am no longer filing a federal return - this is the end of the line. I will not continue monetary support to a morally corrupt, incorrigibly evil government.

Excerpt from Ann Barnhardt’s site:

2. Many people have asked about specific courses of action. Let me re-post my list of action items:

1.) Media strike
2.) Education system strike (or, put another way, not engaging in child abuse by sending your kids to Marxist-Sodomite indoctrination centers.)
3.) Financial market strike
4.) Tax strike (Max out withholding (if not self-employed) and then don’t file. DO NOT file a false return.)
5.) General strike
6.) Armed counter-revolution

Failure to engage in options one through five GUARANTEES the necessity of number six. Sadly, that is where we are going.

3. Of course, prayer and fasting are antecedents to the six points above.


10 posted on 03/21/2015 11:43:19 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Oliviaforever; All

I would like to address this ‘gay marriage’ issue here with an idea.

The word and the institution of ‘marriage’ has been surrendered by the church and given to the state. The process of that surrender started with the idea of ‘license’.

As with all things given to the state, it has been corruptedchanged into something it is not intended to be. And now, it will be used to try to FORCE those who disagree to comply.

So, how about this, Christians; the church will no longer perform weddings or marriages. Instead, let our churches only perform Ceremonies of Holy Matrimony. This is a biblical term, not given away, that has not been redefined. Eliminate the word ‘marriage’ entirely. A couple would not be ‘wed’ in ‘marriage’, but rather joined in Holy Matrimony.

Church members, think on this, check your church bylaws if you have them. Propose this to your church if it rings true to you. I am to mine.

Just my humble 2 cents.


14 posted on 03/22/2015 4:08:30 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: Oliviaforever

That’s what the second amendment is for


15 posted on 03/22/2015 4:11:12 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Roos_Girl

Ping! Hope y’all found a church.


18 posted on 03/22/2015 5:47:28 AM PDT by ScoochDude
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To: Oliviaforever

If the Supreme Court rules in favor of the homos, then the Supreme Court will no longer have any legitimate Constitutional authority.


19 posted on 03/22/2015 6:02:56 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: Oliviaforever

Dr. James White’s scary prediction for the church in the U.S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNZgIsdVLRc


20 posted on 03/22/2015 6:06:16 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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23 posted on 03/22/2015 11:29:32 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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