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Why a Bad Supreme Court Decision May Require Civil Disobedience
Barb Wire ^ | 20 March, 2015 | MATHEW D. STAVER

Posted on 03/23/2015 7:39:40 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst

The temptation for many will be to cave or compromise. The temptation even for the faithful will be to retreat into our churches and cloisters. In 2004, same-sex “marriage” came to Massachusetts. Contrary to the claim that such laws would usher in an age of “tolerance,” the law immediately became a legal club to beat unwilling participants. Catholic charities bravely refused to place orphans in same-sex homes, because it was contrary to their mission.

Unfortunately, they stopped doing adoptions in the state. This cannot be our precedent. What they should have done is to say, “We are called to place orphans in homes with moms and dads. We will not voluntarily surrender our calling.” Massachusetts might have used force to stop Catholic charities anyway, just as lone florists and bakers are being driven to bankruptcy in other states. But what would happen if, instead of quiet retreat, many thousands of individuals, agencies, charities, churches and schools all came together, prepared, prayed and peacefully refused to countenance a Supreme Court decision that violates not only our highest legal document, but the laws of Nature and Nature’s God?

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Of course peaceful civil disobedience should be tried first. But I doubt it will do the trick.
1 posted on 03/23/2015 7:39:40 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

People won’t try it. Almost all of them will just capitulate . . . and rationalize their behavior. The few loners who do not give in will be persecuted.


2 posted on 03/23/2015 7:43:44 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Democrats are the lawless ones...


3 posted on 03/23/2015 7:43:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist. - Freeper RipSawyer)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
The totalitarian left will bust out the nightsticks and water cannon ala Birmingham 1963.

Except this time there'll be no sympathetic press to cover it.

4 posted on 03/23/2015 7:45:11 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: madprof98

I wish things had been different. In that, these wedding industry vendors, if instead of saying that they don’t service homosexual marriage, would have declined the homosexual inquiries in some other way. Unfortunately they became sitting ducks for the liberals, saying that they don’t service homosexuals. And set them up for charges of discrimination and bigotry and all that we are seeing.


5 posted on 03/23/2015 7:45:53 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: madprof98

Pretty tough not to just capitulate when the tyranny of the state is brought to bear on one single business or agency at a time. It would be a lot easier if those who are next on the list would join the resistance rather than wait until the state comes after them.


6 posted on 03/23/2015 7:47:54 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

“Civil Disobedience”?

Obama lays awake at night praying to The Prophet for exactly that.

For the last 6 years he has been trying to goad his opposition (Patriotic Americans) into some kind of action that he can use to justify coming down on us with a heavy government boot.

He doesn’t need much - just look at what he did with Ferguson. Look at what he is doing with Israel.


7 posted on 03/23/2015 7:48:06 AM PDT by Iron Munro
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Time to send a memo...
I suggest using the following wording in it somewhere...

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security


8 posted on 03/23/2015 7:48:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I know the precedent goes the other way,
but it would appear to be common sense
that no lawsuit of this type could go forward
unless the plaintiffs were unable to find other
suitable accommodations.


9 posted on 03/23/2015 7:49:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Amen, Mr. B, amen.


10 posted on 03/23/2015 7:50:55 AM PDT by Walrus (I love the America that used to be ---I hate the America that now IS!)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
"Of course peaceful civil disobedience should be tried first. But I doubt it will do the trick."

Agree, with the radical American haters in charge now, they will put down peaceful protesters with whatever force they think they need. It will take millions to rise up and be willing to stop a tyrannical government bent on the destruction of the US and the West.

11 posted on 03/23/2015 7:50:56 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

OK, and then what if peaceful doesn’t work?


12 posted on 03/23/2015 8:03:13 AM PDT by glorgau
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“”Of course peaceful civil disobedience should be tried first. But I doubt it will do the trick.”

Fully agree. It’s time to out-Alinsky and out-intimidate the vermin.

It’s war, folks, whether or not you believe it.

But you will.


13 posted on 03/23/2015 8:07:33 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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"Of course peaceful civil disobedience should be tried first."

I think we are almost at the anarchy-tipping point - a blatantly lawless Administration egging on the half of the nation that gets hand-outs (and their libtard enablers) versus the other half of America that is getting pretty damned fed up.
There are more and more things that the mantra "we will not comply" applies to.
Heck, there's a decent % of tax-payers starting to think "go to hell IRS" - and when millions just refuse to file anymore....

14 posted on 03/23/2015 8:09:07 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: glorgau

Then you find and join or support a Constitutional Militia in your area. You get prepared - food/ water/ self defense - whatever you need.
The only other option would be to cower and cave to the corruption pouring out of D.C.


15 posted on 03/23/2015 8:09:18 AM PDT by Hornet22
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Of course peaceful civil disobedience should be tried first. But I doubt it will do the trick.

"Government...derive their just powers from the CONSENT of the governed."

Tired of a corrupt financial system? You CONSENT to it every time you spend or accept an FRN.

Tired of a corrupt, criminal tax system? You CONSENT to it every time you file your taxes.

Tired of the destruction of the 2nd Amendment? You CONSENT to it every time you walk into a gun store and submit to an un-Constitutional background check, or when you ask permission to carry a firearm (already your right).

Tired of an out of control government? You consent to it every time you choose to participate - asking permission to build on your land, submitting to onerous regulations and other nonsense requirements.

So, in the end, we really have no one to blame but ourselves. We keep squealing about Obola and the Dumbocrats, but it's really our fault, because no matter how bad things get, we continue to CONSENT.

It's far past time to stop consenting. But there's a problem with that: It requires FAR too much sacrifice. We are not about to risk our jobs, our homes, our cars, our lives for freedom. It's just too much to ask. Somehow, we consider ourselves to be far more special than the Founders. In truth, we lack the balls and courage.

Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave? Sure it does, but over the land of the free and home of the brave? Not so much.

16 posted on 03/23/2015 8:12:03 AM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: glorgau

Then you have to ask: is this worth spilling blood over?


17 posted on 03/23/2015 8:12:29 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Hornet22

No, you do not join a militia in your area. Unless of course you want to have a burger with an FBI/DHS/ATF/Stasi agent.
Instead you learn about leaderless resistance. Avoid the 33rd Texas, or the 21st Ohio like cyanide.
The US Military studied hard and came up with that as the best solution for dealing with a foreign takeover.


18 posted on 03/23/2015 8:26:13 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Iron Munro
Look at what he is doing with Israel.

In the case of Israel Obama's going up against God, and he won't get very far with that.

I realize that Catholics and most traditional Christian denominations believe and teach that God's promises to ancient Israel were nullified when the Jews persuaded the Roman occupiers to crucify Jesus. But most evangelical Christians believe that His promises to Israel were unconditional, and Israel as a nation is now back in her promised land, at least a part of it, after 2000 years of exile among the nations of the world.

If that's true, and I believe it is, no nation or alliance of nations on earth can drive the Israelis out of their promised land. God's promise to Abraham was never invalidated, even though today's secular Jews both in Israel, the U.S., and many other nations don't realize that.

19 posted on 03/23/2015 8:26:17 AM PDT by epow (If you don't like the devil's fruit stay out of his garden)
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To: DesertRhino

Alphabet boys already visited. United we stand - and they know it.


20 posted on 03/23/2015 8:36:33 AM PDT by Hornet22
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