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Navy veteran takes on Saipan's restriction on handguns
Stars and Stripes ^ | 3/23/15 | Olson

Posted on 03/23/2015 8:08:45 AM PDT by pabianice

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To: TexasGator

I wasn’t talking about the American invasion in 1944, but the Japanese militarization of the island in 1941. The League of Nations Class C mandate was not supposed to include militarization, thus it was technically an invasion.


21 posted on 03/23/2015 9:47:45 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

“I wasn’t talking about the American invasion in 1944, but the Japanese militarization of the island in 1941. The League of Nations Class C mandate was not supposed to include militarization, thus it was technically an invasion.”

Japan pulled out of the League in 1933. It is widely regarded that the militarization of Saipan began then.


22 posted on 03/23/2015 9:55:55 AM PDT by TexasGator
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In theory, true. In practice, not until the decision was made to go to war with the United States in the summer of 1941.

Even then, the state department blocked requests by the defense department to beef up the defense capability of Guam, believe it or not. They said it would be provocative. Yeah, sort of like buying a home defense shotgun would provoke a home invader.

It is amazing that Guam held out as long as they did given that their defense was hamstrung so much by our own government.

23 posted on 03/23/2015 10:01:35 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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“In theory, true. In practice, not until the decision was made to go to war with the United States in the summer of 1941.”

In practice yes. They allowed no foreign ships into the ports and there is ample evidence of the building of airfields and other infrastructure.


24 posted on 03/23/2015 11:53:22 AM PDT by TexasGator
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Bump!


25 posted on 03/23/2015 3:21:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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“It is amazing that Guam held out as long as they did”

One hour from initial engagement to surrender.


26 posted on 03/23/2015 5:10:16 PM PDT by TexasGator
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Tell that to the men who died there.


27 posted on 03/24/2015 6:28:43 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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How many people died in Saipan in 1941 resisting the Japanese? I'm speaking of the indigenous population, not the American soldiers who invaded in 1944.

Ditto for Guam. Yes, December 8, 1941 was a very one-sided and quick contest thanks to the flunkies in the State Department who vetoed any defense of Guam lest it provoke the Japanese. How did that work out?

The indigenous population of Guam resisted bravely until the American military returned in 1944. By most estimates, said resistance and the reprisals which resulted cost them 10% of their population. That's nothing to dismiss lightly.

28 posted on 03/24/2015 7:25:03 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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“How many people died in Saipan in 1941 resisting the Japanese?”

Since the Japanese were the occupiers in 1941 and we didn’t attack till 1944, I doubt that many people died in Saipan in 1941.


29 posted on 03/24/2015 10:11:03 AM PDT by TexasGator
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“The indigenous population of Guam resisted bravely until the American military returned in 1944. By most estimates, said resistance and the reprisals which resulted cost them 10% of their population. That’s nothing to dismiss lightly. “

Where the Japanese went, people died. But I can find no indications of any overt resistance. If you can enlighten me, please do.


30 posted on 03/24/2015 10:29:34 AM PDT by TexasGator
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