My point was refuting the claim that only a person born whithin the borders of the US is eligible to become President. This argument goes back to Hoover and has been proven wrong time and again.
I was using a ludicrious example to show the ridiculessness of the claims being made. I accept that you likely have more “technical” knowldege about the specific example, but it does not negate my point.
The point is that this discussion is nothing more than a “spurious distraction” being used to attack Conservatism, and by extension Conservatives! I am not going to be distracted by this crop of birther discussions. It is irrelevant and a waste of time and energy.
“My point was refuting the claim that only a person born whithin the borders of the US is eligible to become President.”
Your point is utterly wrong once again, and here are some of the reasons why. To be a natural born citizen requires by definition that the citizenship is acquired by the Law of Nature and not by the unnatural and artificial Law of Man. The word, “natural”, in the term “natural born citizen” refers to the Law of Nature as opposed to the Law of Man. The Law of Nature determines the child’s citizenship at birth because there are no other sovereigns who have a legal basis for claiming the allegiance of the child’s parents and the child at the time of the child’s birth within the sovereign domain of the one and only possible sovereign. Whenever a parent or the child is subject to the lawful jurisdiction of a foreign sovereign, the child’s conflicting dual allegiance at birth to a domestic sovereign and a foreign sovereign must be resolved and acquired by the application of unnatural manmade law granting citizenship, instead of the natural law inherent in the circumstances of birth under the jurisdiction of only one sovereign making the grant of citizenship by unnatural law unnecessary.
Since the birth of a child abroad results in the birth occurring within the jurisdiction of a foreign sovereign, the legal allegiance and citizenship of the child at birth can be resolved and granted only by an unnatural act and law of Man. The Law of Nature can come into play in determining citizenship only when the child is born subject to only one sovereign and no other sovereign. The birth of a child abroad in a foreign sovereign’s jurisdiction can never constitute a natural born citizenship acquired by the effect of the Law of Nature. Consequently, “only a person born within the [jurisdiction] of the US” can be a natural born citizen if and when the parents are U.S. citizens who are also subject to the domestic sovereign’s jurisdiction.
“This argument goes back to Hoover and has been proven wrong time and again.”
Herbert Hoover was born in the United States with two U.S. citizen parents, so you are wrong yet again in making such a false statement. His mother was born as a British-Canadian citizen, but she acquired U.S. citizenship upon her marriage to Herbert Hoover’s father.
“I was using a ludicrious example to show the ridiculessness of the claims being made.”
Your example proved to be a “ludicrous” repetition of a bunch of obvious falsehoods and outright lies. After all, it certainly is not difficult by any means to see the Herbert Hoover was undeniably a natural born citizen insofar as he was born solely within the jurisdiction of the sovereign United States of America.
“I accept that you likely have more “technical” knowldege about the specific example, but it does not negate my point.”
In your dreams.
“The point is that this discussion is nothing more than a “spurious distraction” being used to attack Conservatism, and by extension Conservatives!”
A true conservative does not purposefully lie or knowingly and/or negligently propagate falsehoods as you are doing on this topic. If anyone is attacking “Conservatism” it would be yourself when you put imagined political expediency ahead of the law and personal integrity with respect to debasing the law instead of defending the law.
“I am not going to be distracted by this crop of birther discussions. It is irrelevant and a waste of time and energy.”
Every person is entitled to his or her own opinion, and we are free to treat your opinions and insulting “birther” remarks with the contempt they well deserve.