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San Francisco officer-involved shooting sparks Supreme Court debate
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Posted on 03/23/2015 5:29:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The justices heard arguments in a dispute over how San Francisco police in 2008 dealt with a woman with schizophrenia who had threatened to kill her social worker. Police ultimately forced their way into Teresa Sheehan's room at a group home, then shot her after she came at them with a knife.

Sheehan survived and later sued the city, claiming police had a duty under the Americans with Disabilities Act to consider her mental illness and take more steps to avoid a violent confrontation.

The case comes as police have been criticized for a series of high-profile incidents where suspects with mental illness have been shot and killed — most recently an unarmed, naked man in an apartment complex outside Atlanta

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: ada

1 posted on 03/23/2015 5:29:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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what is the issue. Woman attacks police with deadly weapon— shoot her !!


2 posted on 03/23/2015 5:39:00 PM PDT by iowacornman (republicrats are lying liberals)
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To: iowacornman

Oh but she was crazy so — they should have dome something different or something.


3 posted on 03/23/2015 5:40:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.a)
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Maybe it was because a) they knew she was crazy, and b) they busted her door down? If you want to encourage a schizo to come after you with a weapon, that’d be the way to do it.


4 posted on 03/23/2015 5:40:28 PM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: iowacornman
what is the issue.

Provocation.

5 posted on 03/23/2015 5:42:23 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: BenLurkin
“Sheehan survived and later sued the city, claiming police had a duty under the Americans with Disabilities Act to consider her mental illness and take more steps to avoid a violent confrontation.”

The “money shot” in a defense shooting. If you shoot make sure there will be only one person giving a statement. I am surprised they didn't mag dump on her.

6 posted on 03/23/2015 5:44:40 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: BenLurkin

“...claiming police had a duty under the Americans with Disabilities Act to consider her mental illness and take more steps to avoid a violent confrontation.....”

In the old days, a real policeman would have done a “baton tap dance on her head” which would have been less violent but achieved the desired results.


7 posted on 03/23/2015 5:50:50 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There is an uncanny similarity between a pack of jackals and the MSM news readers.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Maybe she had a duty to herself to not keep a knife in her room if she knew she was mentally ill.


8 posted on 03/23/2015 6:00:26 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: BenLurkin
If a private citizen shot her in self defense would the ADA also apply?

If a mentally ill person was going to shoot up a school full of children would a cop have to base his response on the ADA?

If this incident took place in any other jurisdiction than the Ninth Circuit would this case have to go to the Supreme Court?

9 posted on 03/23/2015 6:10:35 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: Polynikes

Those “row house” apartments are densely packed with people in many neighborhoods. They may have been concerned about hitting somebody through a wall or two.


10 posted on 03/23/2015 6:16:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.a)
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Let’s see. Woman in a ‘patient run Insane asylum’ and cops with guns. This story is going to need some comic relief.


11 posted on 03/23/2015 6:53:09 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (If you're not leading, you're struggling to be relevant.)
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To: Oberon

Now now.
Don’t go insinuating that public servants should be smarter than fire hydrants.

Clearly all that is needed under any circumstances is testosterone.


12 posted on 03/23/2015 7:17:11 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: immadashell
If a private citizen shot her in self defense would the ADA also apply?
If a mentally ill person was going to shoot up a school full of children would a cop have to base his response on the ADA?

If this incident took place in any other jurisdiction than the Ninth Circuit would this case have to go to the Supreme Court?

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None of the the circumstances listed above in the previous comments happened, but, something did happen. Cops busted into a home for crazy people without a warrant and shot someone they knew was disabled. Had they calmly walked in and asked one of the workers to bring her to them there would likely have been no incident. Had they bean bagged her there would have likely been nothing more heard of it. If they had tazed her we would have likely never heard of it.

I am sick and tired of cops shooting people when they have alternatives. We have cops, we have judges, we have juries and we have executioners, why do cops so often have to be all four.

13 posted on 03/23/2015 7:40:04 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: BenLurkin

Psycho should be medicated and/or locked up.


14 posted on 03/23/2015 8:39:32 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Proud Millennial for Cruz!)
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Egg on my face. She was already was locked up. :/


15 posted on 03/23/2015 8:40:55 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Proud Millennial for Cruz!)
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To: JAKraig
It boils down to this real life incident. “My son is crazy and has a sword”. The cop came to his Folsom home and killed him. They killed another nut with a sword in Citrus Heights. The whiners wanted a better outcome. There was no better way. Cops got rid of the baton because lawyers moaned about cracked skulls.
16 posted on 03/24/2015 12:31:34 AM PDT by Domangart
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To: immadashell
If a private citizen shot her in self defense would the ADA also apply?

If a mentally ill person was going to shoot up a school full of children would a cop have to base his response on the ADA?


But, the issue here is that the police broke into her home, knew she had mental issues, and didn't prepare for that possibility. The cops didn't shoot her in self-defense. She was defending herself when they (the aggresors) shot her. You're only looking at one small detail, not the full picture.
17 posted on 03/24/2015 9:08:37 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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