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To: ifinnegan

It isn’t about embracing communism. I reject the premise that American taxes should be funding American schools in America that are run by foreign standards, to the exclusion of Americans.

Especially since it’s the AMERICAN education system that invented the modern age, everything from steam power to the moon landing to Silicon Valley.


35 posted on 03/24/2015 11:08:01 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink

So you support the communist DeBlasio’s position?

And you base it on false assumptions.

There are no “foreign standards”.


38 posted on 03/24/2015 11:16:36 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Blue Ink
Especially since it’s the AMERICAN education system that invented the modern age, everything from steam power to the moon landing to Silicon Valley.

Steam power had nothing to do with the "American education system", which did not exist as such, when the steam engine was invented (in England). These people were self-taught. In fact, a lot of the major inventors at any time are self-taught. No teacher or education system can produce a genius. Like great athletes, geniuses are born, not made. In effect, they wrote the textbooks on their specialties before such textbooks existed. The education system exists to place people into worker bee slots in small and big businesses. The exceptional people march to the tune of their own drummers. Steve Jobs was a misfit who dropped out. Of Reed College. Bill Gates wasn't the smartest guy at Harvard, and he learned very little from the place. He is probably wealthier than his entire class year put together, though.

The US space program relied on German scientists on loan from Hitler, Wernher von Braun being the most notable among them. Von Braun got a good bit of his inspiration from Robert H Goddard, the renowned American rocket scientist. Here's an account of Goddard's background:

The young Goddard was a thin and frail boy, almost always in fragile health. He suffered from stomach problems, pleurisy, colds and bronchitis, and fell two years behind his classmates. He became a voracious reader, regularly visiting the local public library to borrow books on the physical sciences.[13]:16,19

Aerodynamics and motion

Goddard's interest in aerodynamics led him to study some of Samuel Langley's scientific papers in the periodical Smithsonian. In these papers, Langley wrote that birds flap their wings with different force on each side to turn in the air. Inspired by these articles, the teenage Goddard watched swallows and chimney swifts from the porch of his home, noting how subtly the birds moved their wings to control their flight. He noted how remarkably the birds controlled their flight with their tail feathers, which he called the birds' equivalent of ailerons. He took exception to some of Langley's conclusions, and in 1901 wrote a letter to St. Nicholas magazine[16]:5 with his own ideas. The editor of St. Nicholas declined to publish Goddard's letter, remarking that birds fly with a certain amount of intelligence and that "machines will not act with such intelligence."[13]:31 Goddard disagreed, believing that a man could control a flying machine with his own intelligence.

Around this time, Goddard read Newton's Principia Mathematica, and found that Newton's Third Law of Motion applied to motion in space. He wrote later about his own tests of the Law:

I began to realize that there might be something after all to Newton's Laws. The Third Law was accordingly tested, both with devices suspended by rubber bands and by devices on floats, in the little brook back of the barn, and the said law was verified conclusively. It made me realize that if a way to navigate space were to be discovered, or invented, it would be the result of a knowledge of physics and mathematics.[13]:32

Academics

As his health improved, Goddard continued his formal schooling as an 19-year-old sophomore at South High Community School[19] in Worcester in 1901. He is an alumni of the Goddard Scholars Program at South High Community School, and the program was named in his honor after he graduated. He excelled in his coursework, and his peers twice elected him class president. Making up for lost time, he studied books on mathematics, astronomy, mechanics and composition from the school library.[13]:32 At his graduation ceremony in 1904, he gave his class oration as valedictorian. In his speech, entitled "On Taking Things for Granted," Goddard included a section that would become emblematic of his life:

[J]ust as in the sciences we have learned that we are too ignorant to safely pronounce anything impossible, so for the individual, since we cannot know just what are his limitations, we can hardly say with certainty that anything is necessarily within or beyond his grasp. Each must remember that no one can predict to what heights of wealth, fame, or usefulness he may rise until he has honestly endeavored, and he should derive courage from the fact that all sciences have been, at some time, in the same condition as he, and that it has often proved true that the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow.[16]:19

Goddard enrolled at Worcester Polytechnic Institute in 1904.[13]:41 He quickly impressed the head of the physics department, A. Wilmer Duff, with his thirst for knowledge, and Professor Duff took him on as a laboratory assistant and tutor.[13]:42 At WPI, Goddard joined the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity, and began a long courtship with high school classmate Miriam Olmstead, an honor student who had graduated with him as salutatorian. Eventually, she and Goddard were engaged, but they drifted apart and ended the engagement around 1909.[13]:51

Goddard received his B.S. degree in physics from Worcester Polytechnic in 1908,[13]:50 and after serving there for a year as an instructor in physics, he began his graduate studies at Clark University in Worcester in the fall of 1909.[20] Goddard received his M.A. degree in physics from Clark University in 1910, and then stayed at Clark to complete his Ph.D. in physics in 1911. He spent another year at Clark as an honorary fellow in physics, and in 1912, he accepted a research fellowship at Princeton University's Palmer Physical Laboratory.[13]:56–58

Does this account suggest that anyone taught Goddard anything? The guy was a super-nerd who read everything he could lay his hands on, and taught his professors rather than the other way around.
43 posted on 03/24/2015 11:36:32 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Blue Ink
It isn’t about embracing communism. I reject the premise that American taxes should be funding American schools in America that are run by foreign standards, to the exclusion of Americans. Especially since it’s the AMERICAN education system that invented the modern age, everything from steam power to the moon landing to Silicon Valley.

Once again, there's this premise that Asian Americans aren't real Americans. Maybe you'd be more comfortable posting on Stormfront rather than Free Republic.

107 posted on 03/25/2015 4:13:54 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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