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Islamic Center Raided in Bremen(Andreas Lubitz Possible Connection to Islam)
NBC News ^ | March 6th, 2015 | Andy Eckardt and Nancy Ing

Posted on 03/26/2015 7:26:04 PM PDT by richardtavor

It is just speculation, but Lubitz's Commercial Pilot's Training was in Bremen, Germany. Lubitz left Montabaur at the age of 20 in 2007 to begin his commercial pilot's training in the northern German city of Bremen. Marseille prosecutor says co-pilot Andreas Lubitz crashed plane 'deliberately' - both he and pilot Patrick Sonderheimer trained at Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen. Was there a connection between the Raid at the Bremen Islamic Center? 2 of 4 armed militants from France were arrested for possible terrorism. I don't know if they are connected, but has anyone else seen this?


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: andreaslubitz; bremen; europeanunion; france; germanwings; germanwingscrash; germany; lubitz; lubitzislamist; lubitzmosque; lufthansa; nato; waronterror

1 posted on 03/26/2015 7:26:04 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: richardtavor

Bkmrk.


2 posted on 03/26/2015 7:27:04 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: richardtavor

marked 4 l8r


3 posted on 03/26/2015 7:28:21 PM PDT by sayfer bullets (“I didn’t leave the [---] party, the [---] party left me.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: richardtavor

If terrorism was the motivation behind this tragedy, then why hasn’t a terrorist organization taken credit for it? I’ll answer my own question. They haven’t because it isn’t.


4 posted on 03/26/2015 7:38:01 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Ben Mugged

Thanks for the comment. That’s why I said it was speculation. At this point we don’t know if it was terrorism or it was not terrorism. Shep Smith said 56 minutes after the announcement that WE know it is not terrorism. My point is, the only thing that they know for sure is that the plane was forced to crash by the Copilot Andreas Lubitz and 150 people were killed. Until we learn more facts, everything is speculation.


5 posted on 03/26/2015 7:43:09 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: richardtavor
this does raise a question: I was just re-reading "Fate is the Hunter" by Ernest K. Gann. Right on thru the 50's planes were going down every couple of months. Aircraft crash forensics got better and better, but there were many crashes that were simply written off and "pilot error".

This nudges at whether suicide by pilot might have happened more often than thought.

6 posted on 03/26/2015 7:50:30 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted...)
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To: Ben Mugged

Terrorist groups don’t claim credit as often as they used to in the past.


7 posted on 03/26/2015 7:56:42 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

He could be a lone wolf with no formal membership in the usual groups.


8 posted on 03/26/2015 7:58:55 PM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38

Certainly possible.


9 posted on 03/26/2015 8:01:08 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

I should think that with ISIS on a roll, there is absolutely no reason for them to be shy about their expansion and expansive victories, and to shout from the Alps that they can walk and chew gum at the same time, by taking down this plane. Even if they did NOT have anything to do with it.

What is fishy to me is not just Andreas miniscule number of flight hours, but how many YEARS it took him to accumulate those miniscule number of hours. At minimum from ‘08 or ‘09
to 2015. That is quite astounding. WTH was that all about?
What was he doing all that time?

Heck, my darling hubby has 1200 hours private plane hours and NEVER flies and doesn’t own a plane. What could that kid have been doing with the rest of his time????


10 posted on 03/26/2015 8:04:50 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

The thing is that muslim terrorists are so loosely organized that the right hand typically doesn’t know what the left hand is doing within an organization, and many terrorist cells and single terrorists work completely independent from a central leadership.


11 posted on 03/26/2015 8:58:49 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: RitaOK

As far as the hours are concerned, there are conflicting stories. It may be 600 hours in the A320 only.


12 posted on 03/26/2015 9:01:53 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

That’s right, they’re in “war mode” ... sow confusion and consternation amongst the enemy. I can only hope that the background of this crime will be uncovered, but as of now, its modus operandi fits like a glove to the ISIS effort to sow destruction in The West. And as you say, it can no longer be described as “terrorism”, in the sense of attention grabbing.


13 posted on 03/26/2015 10:31:02 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Ben Mugged

It may not be terrorism, but do keep in mind the islamists have recently advocated for lone wolf islamic terrorist attacks...

A lot of investigative work still needs to be done before a final conclusion is reached.

Everything else is just speculation until then.


14 posted on 03/26/2015 10:47:24 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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This point would be stronger if Lubitz, after the training in Bremen, went back to live there. But he didn't. He spent a lot of time in his family's home, and also had a flat in Dusseldorf.

Police said the inside of the flat in the‎ Ekrath suburb‎ 10 miles outside Dusseldorf city centre looked 'completely normal.'

They declined to say if he lived there alone. He was listed on the letterbox with another person named Goldbach.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3012053/Andreas-Lubitz-Germanwings-flight-9525-French-alps-crash-French-alps-Germanwings-plane-crash-Airbus-A320-Barcelonnette.html#ixzz3VZyvBV1K

15 posted on 03/27/2015 3:32:38 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: jonascord

Suicide by mass murder?
I call lone wolf terrorism on this one.
He went out being a “good” muslim.


16 posted on 03/27/2015 4:27:31 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: SZonian

I agree. Now the networks are trying to sell the ‘crazed wacko’ angle. All of these news sources are trying to “sell” something. At this point, they don’t really know anything. If one listens to News nowaday, one realizes that there is 2 minutes of actual news and hours of salesmanship. I personally believe that we would be better off listening to that 2 minutes of News and spend the extra time watching Ed Sullivan reruns!


17 posted on 03/27/2015 4:41:57 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: SZonian

I agree. Now the networks are trying to sell the ‘crazed wacko’ angle. All of these news sources are trying to “sell” something. At this point, they don’t really know anything. If one listens to News nowaday, one realizes that there is 2 minutes of actual news and hours of salesmanship. I personally believe that we would be better off listening to that 2 minutes of News and spend the extra time watching Ed Sullivan reruns!


18 posted on 03/27/2015 5:02:34 AM PDT by richardtavor
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