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To: Strawberry AZ

Just go ahead. If there’s anything left of the country when you get your term limits or 17th amendment repealed, and the court just arbitrarily throws it out, like they always do, will you join me in simply nullifying unconstitutional rulings? Go back and read Give Me Liberty or Give me Death, you’re part of the group who are begging at the feet of the king.

What is it, 33 states you need? I’ll give you 23 states, many of those are iffy. Which ones do you think will go along? When they don’t, will you just relinquish your liberty? Are you counting on Missouri, Minnesota, and Virginia? Your betting your liberty on them? How long do you think this will take?


30 posted on 03/27/2015 3:35:03 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod; Jacquerie
To DemshateGod - You wrote, "...and the court just arbitrarily throws it out..."

This is a perfect example of misinformation. Whoever told you that the Supreme Court can throw out a ratified Amendment, arbitrarily or otherwise, did you a great disservice.

If you are a young product of today's public school system, I suppose I should give you a pass. If, on the other hand, you are simply one of the willingly uneducated regurgitators of ignorance fed to you by the JBS, then you need to be told how embarrassingly wrong you are.

Begun last year by Citizens for Self-Governance, this Convention of States Project is expected to take at least five years to reach the 32-state threshold. The greatest hurdle is re-educating our elected officials, disabusing them of the false notions they hold, many of whom are victims themselves of the liars and fear-mongers of the John Birch Society.

And we beg at no one's feet. Article V was deliberately written into the Constitution by the Framers as an Article, not added as an amendment after the fact. George Mason (and others) stated that its specific purpose was to give the people in the states the method and the authority to circumvent the Executive, the Legislative and the Judicial should the need arise, and that need arose a long time ago. Article V is only 143 words, and I suggest that you take two minutes and read them... it's a whole lot shorter than Patrick Henry's beautiful monologue, and it makes his point precisely. We adhere to the notions of The Founders, not the JBS.

Lastly, although I am a supporter of certain, limited applications of nullification at the state level, I laughed out loud when I read your frivolous invitation for me to join you "in simply nullifying unconstitutional rulings." Besides being unconstitutional and an engraved invitation for violent federal intervention, if it's really that "simple," I challenge you to provide one instance where it has been upheld in any court of competent jurisdiction or even minimally effective on a national scale, for that is what we're talking about here... the nation. You let me know when Publius Huldah or anyone else at the John Birch Society figures out how we can nullify our way out of undeclared wars or invasive United Nations treaties, or a way to nullify us into a balanced budget or mandatory term limits for all federal officials.

37 posted on 03/28/2015 9:39:29 AM PDT by Strawberry AZ (Artcile V... A Solution as Big as the Problem - http://www.conventionofstates.com/problem)
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