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Curious what freepers think about these phone companies.
1 posted on 03/30/2015 7:24:01 AM PDT by edwinland
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If you can't do the time don't do the crime.
2 posted on 03/30/2015 7:26:31 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Even Lower Morals)
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Stamps are cheaper than phone calls.


3 posted on 03/30/2015 7:28:50 AM PDT by Vaduz
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If you lift up the rock of prison services like phone calls and food, you will see a lot of ugly stuff. This is one example. The state and these companies make a fortune off of charging for even local prisoner calls that would cost pennies if done through normal phone lines. Same with food, there is a several hundred percent — perhaps even 1,000%, mark up. And because a lot of people don’t have sympathy for prisoners, the state and their crony capitalist service providers get away with it. It needs to stop.


4 posted on 03/30/2015 7:31:13 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Well the inmates do use them to produce income as in supplying Russian brides and drugs to people


5 posted on 03/30/2015 7:33:21 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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Ideally the prison pays a little more than $0 for the calls and the balance is actually a “fine” of sorts that acts as a deterrent to placing phone calls. The excess is returned to the taxpayers or used to lower the operating costs of the prison.

Reality = a democratic crony is getting rich and uses part of the excess to fund his political patron.


6 posted on 03/30/2015 7:33:32 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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a) you don't try to steal 21 boxes of teeth whitening strips unless you are a professional shoplifter

b) you don't get sent to prison for a shoplifting offense unless you have a pretty patterned history

c) It's prison, not your bedroom. You're damn lucky you get to use a phone at all. Think of your family next time you consider committing another felony.

d) If your wife had any self-respect, she would not spend 3 grand calling you, she would dump you and move on

Lastly, screw you, NYT. It sickening watching you exploit the emotional weaklings that read your rag and take it seriously.

7 posted on 03/30/2015 7:33:46 AM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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I am concerned about prisons for profit. If you read up on it, you’ll see that opens up a lot of opportunities for abuse.

For-Profit Prisons: 8 Statistics That Show the Problems

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/for-profit-prisons-8-statistics-that-show-the-problems.html#ixzz3Vsbf6QXD


8 posted on 03/30/2015 7:34:21 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Does the local call include recording, detection equipment to tell if a third party has been included in the call, and a voice over that warns that this call is from a prison and recorded? Does the phone company have to deal with continual subpoenas that result from these calls?

Rates seem rather reasonable considering all that goes on and the associated costs to cater to criminals using the phone system.


10 posted on 03/30/2015 7:38:40 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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It sounds to me like a racket. The outside company pumps up the price of the service provided far above the cost of providing that service, and makes a huge profit. And they have a captive audience, assuming that prisoners and families have no choice to make phone calls any other way.

Reminds me a bit of the red light cameras in use in so many places. Much of the money generated in fines from red light cameras goes to the companies which provide the cameras, rather than to the locality in which people run red lights.


11 posted on 03/30/2015 7:41:35 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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It's a racket. A unionized LEO retires on a pension and picks up a plumb, pay-for-play service. How about those retired cops who get the leg monitor services? Costs $400-500 to put on the leg and the job is not bidded out.

Who gets the phone? Hell, sheriff's department who run the jail.

13 posted on 03/30/2015 7:46:08 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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This is a really nutty way of recouping incarceration expenses. If you want to make prisoners pay, make them work for their meals. No work, no meals.


15 posted on 03/30/2015 7:48:42 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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A couple extra thoughts to frame this question:

Hebrews 13:3

Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.

Matthew 25:35-36

For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.'

17 posted on 03/30/2015 7:51:11 AM PDT by edwinland
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One reason cellphone smuggling is such a booming prison business.


18 posted on 03/30/2015 7:53:44 AM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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Locally, the jail quit allowing face to face visitation with family members. Instead, family members had to video chat through the internet - for a premium.

They reversed this policy, after it got some public scrutiny.


19 posted on 03/30/2015 7:55:54 AM PDT by lacrew
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Well it is called “paying back their debt to society.”


23 posted on 03/30/2015 8:06:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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The money for these calls doesn’t go to the city/state/county. It goes to private companies. In their “agreement of services” it states that they can change the rates at any time for any reason without prior notification. The service sucks as calls are not put through but still charged.

And yes, I speak from experience as my daughter called me from jail a few times.


26 posted on 03/30/2015 8:14:31 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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Are they paying for monitoring?

Being a long-time PA resident I am assuming at least five bucks of that $6.95 is going to our politicians as a kickback.


27 posted on 03/30/2015 8:14:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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At the core of the inquiry are the hundreds of millions of dollars in concession fees, known as commissions, paid by the phone companies to state and local prison systems in exchange for exclusive contracts. The fees help drive phone charges as high as $1.22 per minute, and the leading companies say they need to charge at least 20 cents per minute, compared with typical commercial rates of about 4 cents a minute.

In 2013, a total of $460 million in concession fees was paid to jails and prisons, and to state, county and local governments, according to the F.C.C. The fees are legal, and they cover a range of expenses within prisons as well as outside.

So, legalized kickbacks.

30 posted on 03/30/2015 8:18:15 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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Freepers likely 99% know nothing about prison or jail

If they did they wouldn’t say inmates

But boy like anything else they are ignorant of they sure have heartfelt feelings

Prisons have always been a spoils system....for everyone to feed from the public trough or in this case prisoner families

This is just more of that

I don’t anyone will stop it

Most folks here act like they would be ok with execution for any crime worthy of prison time

Really touching from a liberty site

Free Republic has lost most of its old timers

Newer posters are often here same as any other social commentary site

To be hard asses with anonymity they dare not be in public

Lonely angry folks are just too damn common here now

The halcyon days of purpose and liberty from 97-2005 are gone....and I lament that...back when we had reknown posters

I miss the libertarians...kooky but they gave a balance to torches and pitchforks

Will a Cruz or Walker nomination rekindle it here or will the bloodshed inevitable here from the primaries make that impossible

/rant


36 posted on 03/30/2015 8:42:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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These kinds of things are a way for a jurisdiction to recover the costs of incarceration. It’s not the least bit nice to the families that end up paying for these things but that’s the way it is.

When my father was in prison no one called him so it didn’t really affect us anyway.

By the way, he BELONGED in prison!


37 posted on 03/30/2015 8:49:58 AM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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