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Outrageous public pensions could bankrupt these states
Yahoo -FT ^ | 3-30-2015 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 03/30/2015 5:31:21 PM PDT by george76

Some of the worst public-sector pension problems in America are playing out in states and cities where legislation or local court rulings have granted extraordinary protections to workers’ retirement benefits—far beyond those enjoyed by private-sector employees.

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One can see a glimpse of Illinois’s possible future in Arizona. Last year, the state’s Supreme Court overturned 2011 pension reforms that, among other things, sought to curb expensive annual cost-of-living increases for judges, legislators, and

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The predicament faced by Illinois and Arizona should be a warning, especially to other states where government pensions enjoy extraordinary legal protections. Raising benefits or shortchanging annual pension-system payments is especially dangerous in states lacking the ability to tame costs once debt grows too large. Yet, New York State, where government workers enjoy some of the strongest protections against changes to their retirement benefits, is doing exactly that—continuing a program that allows the state and its hard-pressed municipalities to shortchange the pension system by billions of dollars.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Illinois; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bankrupt; pensions; publicpensions
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1 posted on 03/30/2015 5:31:21 PM PDT by george76
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The merry-go-round always stops eventually. The nation and most states would have had to file bankruptcy already, if they were private businesses.


2 posted on 03/30/2015 5:36:34 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: george76

Not one damned dime from the federal taxpayers. NOTHING!!


3 posted on 03/30/2015 5:36:57 PM PDT by iowacornman (Speak out with courage!!)
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This is exactly why I supported keeping the Detroit bankruptcy here in Michigan as the best of our bad options. We now have the moral high ground to say “Hell no” when they come begging.


4 posted on 03/30/2015 5:41:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: txrefugee
you always think that there is an end to this kind of stuff, but the govt employees just keep rolling it in....

the SHF moment never comes to them...they're protected from it all....

5 posted on 03/30/2015 5:41:47 PM PDT by cherry
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To: iowacornman

BS....they’ll get our tax money and probably dip into our hard earned measly 401’s as well....


6 posted on 03/30/2015 5:42:43 PM PDT by cherry
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Well, not if we say “no” within the system. We must purge the boehners and the cornyns/ mcconnels and raise up those leaders with guts. NO MORE PAYING BLACk DEMORATS TO VOTE IN MISSISSIPPI AGAINST WINNING PRIMARY CANDIDATES FOR AN “ESTABLISHMENT” POC!! (they paid $15 per vote!!). We need to get active or we are dead.


7 posted on 03/30/2015 5:52:40 PM PDT by iowacornman (Speak out with courage!!)
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To: george76

The answer is pretty simple, Declare any and ALL Unfunded Liabilities, an Act of Slavery upon Future Generations. Because that’s what they are, and SLAVERY IS ILLEGAL!


8 posted on 03/30/2015 6:01:48 PM PDT by eyeamok
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If state and local socialist interests get control of the federal Senate, more police control and other influence through an Article V convention, they’ll take whatever pensions they desire by any means they choose.


9 posted on 03/30/2015 6:03:23 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: george76

See “The Article V Convention Scam” at the bottom of the Billwatch table.

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10 posted on 03/30/2015 6:06:32 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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“One can see a glimpse of Illinois’s possible future in Arizona. “

LOL...Yahoo liar .

AZ is not in trouble, and Ill. is BK.


11 posted on 03/30/2015 6:16:35 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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There should be no such thing as an unfunded government liability....if a benefit is promised as a perk of employment....it must be 100% funded or not offered.


12 posted on 03/30/2015 7:16:36 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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Illinois is so screwed... New Gov. Rauner probably thinks often of Star Trek’s Dr. McCoy’s line “Bet you wish you’d stayed in bed” as applied to himself!


13 posted on 03/30/2015 11:25:13 PM PDT by Paul R.
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To: cherry
the SHF moment never comes to them..

The standard of living/income decline will hit them last. If it doesn't drag the country the rest of the way down with it first. No joke.

14 posted on 03/30/2015 11:47:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: george76

No court or executive can order a legislature to appropriate money, and no legislature must obey such an order.


15 posted on 03/31/2015 12:08:52 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. .)
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To: eyeamok

“The answer is pretty simple, Declare any and ALL Unfunded Liabilities, an Act of Slavery upon Future Generations”

Don’t be a drama queen. No law, no court, and no supposed “contract” can bind a future (not yet elected) legislature.


16 posted on 03/31/2015 12:11:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. .)
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To: terycarl

“There should be no such thing as an unfunded government liability....if a benefit is promised as a perk of employment....it must be 100% funded or not offered.”

All promised conditions of employment by the taxpayers exist at their discretion.

Just as with Social Security, they could be modified or ended tomorrow.

The legislatures that impose taxes and appropriate collections do not employ or supervise the politicians who sign these ridiculous “contracts”, and no sovereign people (acting through their representatives) are bound by them.


17 posted on 03/31/2015 12:15:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. .)
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To: george76

The Medicaid Government WorkCamp, mission accomplished.


18 posted on 03/31/2015 1:10:44 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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Rather than fund their future pensions, the public employee union controlled local and state governments conspired to spend the funds on increasing their current incomes while promising even larger future pensions. RICO and break the unions, the corrupt politicians they back, and the sweetheart deals they made.


19 posted on 03/31/2015 4:58:38 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change)
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Mississippi ain’t so bad either - a lot of pensions start lower, but they grow at a rate of 3% per yer per year (3% after one year, 6% more for year 2, 9% more for year 3....) and double every 7 years which helps keep up with higher cost of living increases nicely.


20 posted on 03/31/2015 5:00:55 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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