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Pence Buckles Under Powerful Gay/Media Blitzkrieg
Breitbart ^ | March 30, 2015 | Austin Ruse

Posted on 03/31/2015 10:04:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Gaffer

And it builds their morale and resolve and tanks ours.


61 posted on 03/31/2015 10:38:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Simply a bunch of words stating that Scott Walker is not going to fight for things that he thinks will keep him from being President.


62 posted on 03/31/2015 10:39:01 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Regal

Yeah. I use this comparison below. It does NOT give them the right to do number one, and only MAY give them the right to do number two:

1. Clearly “uniformed” NeoNazi’s walk into a jewish deli and order sandwiches. Owner refuses to sell them sandwiches.

2. “Normally dressed” men walk into a Jewish deli and ask to reserve its banquet room to have their annual Hitler remembrance event. Owner refuses to schedule their event.

In number one, the proprieter is discriminating because of who they are. Not allowed. In numer two, owner is discriminating because he refuses to participate in an ACTIVITY that is repugnant to him.

People don’t get this. It’s the core here.


63 posted on 03/31/2015 10:39:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He was toast the moment he began talking to the media about it.


64 posted on 03/31/2015 10:44:19 AM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: SoConPubbie

You totally miss the point of effective leadership.

You either don’t know what Scott Walker has done, or you believe that by attacking him, by misrepresenting his positions and wins, that somehow that will help us beat the Left.

You are giving aid and comfort to the Left when you choose to do that.


65 posted on 03/31/2015 10:45:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You totally miss the point of effective leadership.

You're thinking of another word, like Pragmatism.

As ususal, you're making excuses for where Scott Walker has fallen down in terms of Leadership.

Anything to spin it favorable to Scott.

Scott is telegraphing to Social Conservatives everywhere that he cannot be counted on when the going gets tough, or the Press is going to be "Mean" to him on a particular Social issue.

That's not leadership, it's cowardice!
66 posted on 03/31/2015 10:48:22 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: jimjohn
He was toast the moment he began talking to the media about it.

There was nothing Pence could do about this other than not offering them this opportunity in the first place but that's history now.

The MSM/gay activist army put a bag over his head, spun him 'round and 'round, until he gave them their win and their talking points about evil conservatism.

67 posted on 03/31/2015 10:50:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This just solidifies my opinion that this country will NOT be fixed by elections.

If you think that, you are fooling yourself.


68 posted on 03/31/2015 10:51:15 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Left plays Chess while so-called Conservatives play Checkers.


69 posted on 03/31/2015 10:51:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; jimjohn
There was nothing Pence could do about this other than not offering them this opportunity in the first place but that's history now.

B.S.!
70 posted on 03/31/2015 10:54:53 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
Scott is telegraphing to Social Conservatives everywhere that he cannot be counted on when the going gets tough, or the Press is going to be "Mean" to him on a particular Social issue.

Talk to a liberal activist and find out what they think of Walker.

You'll get things like "blind-sided" and "never saw it coming." That's because Walker doesn't telegraph his movements (he tells him his personal beliefs and they are rock solid conservative); he doesn't give the Left fodder so that they can rally their mob - the media, the "educators," the unions - he doesn't lead with his chin, he just leads.

71 posted on 03/31/2015 10:54:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Lib Media does have him backtracking, explaining, apologizing, and revising.

The Lib Media won.

Pence folded, but what else would we expect from a Republican? Republicans are just horrible at the game of politics.


72 posted on 03/31/2015 10:56:35 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The media have been rabid dogs taking orders form their good friends in the homostapo.

This law is clear cut. The country was founded on religious freedom, it is in the Constitution, but now the media and the homostapo feel they have more rights than our founding fathers thought?
All Pence and republicans had to do was to tell them this and ask the crazed biased , rabid media do they not believe in the 1st amendment anymore and do they feel that Christians and people of religion should be persecuted now from the homosexuals.

If I don’t recognize your sham of a wedding then why should I be forced to go to your sham and take photographs?
Should Jewish bakers be forced to bake a cake fro a NAZI wedding and do a swastika on the cake?

Why the hell does the GOP not frigging raise these questions and throw it back into this corrupt media?

I’m frigging sick of the homosexuals and pushing their agenda and it doe snot help with the likes of elitist Margaret Hoover and others like her attacking this bill like she was this morning


73 posted on 03/31/2015 10:56:37 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Regulator

Why are not church members there going out and protesting the homosexuals and their NAZI tactics of hate and intolerance.

Throw their words back in their face and start suing them and see how they like it.


74 posted on 03/31/2015 10:58:04 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Such legislation has been read as supporting businesses and individuals not just to avoid supplying abortion drugs, but also allowing certain businesses to avoid serving gay weddings, usually bakers and photographers some who are now being run out of business for refusing to serve what they see as a religious ceremony that violates their own deeply held beliefs.”
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If the legislation was not meant to reaffirm that businesses can refuse service to anyone based on religious grounds then what was the point of the legislation? It seems that Pence is trying to turn the intent of the legislation on its head by saying that it mandates that businesses cannot refuse service to anyone for any reason. Tail wags dog. Civilized society takes another hit.


75 posted on 03/31/2015 10:59:27 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: TomGuy
Pence folded, but what else would we expect from a Republican? Republicans are just horrible at the game of politics.

Walker doesn't - he may retreat to regroup when there is no way to win at the moment (doesn't poison the well while waiting for a more opportune time); he knows when we have the advantage and then is unmovable in his resolve.

76 posted on 03/31/2015 11:01:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Gaffer

The garbage on social media with this Indiana law is absolutely incredible. I literally cringe reading some of it. Stupidity seems to be de rigeur in society now.


77 posted on 03/31/2015 11:03:10 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Pence had the chance to be a principled hero. Instead, he has cowered and caved to the bullying of the Left.

Well, we can eliminate him from the 2016 line-up. We don't need another GOP coward in Washington. The place is already full of them.

I wonder who is next to self-eliminate?

78 posted on 03/31/2015 11:04:38 AM PDT by Gritty (Death to America? At the rate we're doing it to ourselves, the mullahs will have to move fast-MSteyn)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I feel for Pence, they were waiting to pounce.

Because Pubbies are so easy.

As Charlie Brown would say, "Lucy, hold the football for me."


79 posted on 03/31/2015 11:10:13 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; All
”... for new legislation to make it clear that Christian florists and bakers could be forced to participate in weddings that violate their religious beliefs."

No, Secton 1 of the 14th Amendment clearly prohibits the states from making laws which unreasonably abridge the constitutionally enumerated rights of citizens, 1st Amendment protected religious protection in this case.

14th Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The bottom line is that it’s the responsibility of people with religious convictions to know their 14th Amendment protections regardless what legislation their state lawmakers make. And regardless that the Religious Freedom Law that Gov. Pence just signed is reasonably based on language in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, I must now question if Pense has even read Section 1 regardless that he has sworn to protect and defend the Constitution.

80 posted on 03/31/2015 11:14:07 AM PDT by Amendment10
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