Remember FRiends "individuals" have "rights"... "groups" don't.
Why must I give a reason to refuse service?
Posted on 04/01/2015 7:52:00 AM PDT by Lady4Liberty
Remember FRiends "individuals" have "rights"... "groups" don't.
Why must I give a reason to refuse service?
He was a human who clearly prayed and spoke to his Father God who was not human.
There are direct quotes from Jesus because he was human.
You dont seem to be able to find the ones that you claimed existed.
Matthew 27:45-46,
“My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?”
( Jesus praying )
That quote by Jesus was at the point when the sins of world and yours were cast upon him and the Father could not look upon him...
Read Isiah 53...
This is basic theology here...
Are you trolling or just ignorant about scripture ..?
How could the ‘Father’ not ‘look upon him’ if he was him at the same time?
Clearly one was a human on earth and prayed to his heavenly Father God. He is the one I am asking for quotes from.
Clearly
Matthew 27:45-46,
“My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?”
( Jesus praying )
[[He was a human who clearly prayed and spoke to his Father God who was not human.]]
Please study up on Christ as it is clear you don’t understand who Christ was- Christ was fully man (The man who prayed to God) AND He was fully God- A man was needed to die for the world’s sin- a man ‘capable of sin but sinless” and Christ the LORD chose to come to earth to take on this heavy task for our sake, but He was still fully God
I gave you plenty of verses- as well there are verses talking about Christ specifically telling workers of iniquity to depart from Him because he ‘never knew them’
Again- you are claiming something about Christ which is unbiblical- Christ was and is God- always has been always will be- His life on earth in no way diminished His Godship
IF you are truly interested in learning about God/Christ, then you can google something along the lines of “How could Christ be a man and God at the same time” However, I suspect you aren’t really interested in learning about God/Christ as you are saying the same things today and m making the same accusations that you have said many years ago on this site-
trolling I believe- looking for a fight- He/She has had this MO for a long while on FR
John 12:49-50,7:18
“For I do not speak of myself, but from the Father who sent me and commanded me what I should say and what I should speak”
John 5:19
“Truly, truly, I say to you; the Son can do nothing of himself [by his own will], but only does what he sees the Father do. For whatever things he [the Father] does, these are also likewise done by the Son.
I have given you many verses libs- but if you are going to continue alogn the line that Christ was not God, then it is clear you are willfully ignorant of God’s word and that you aren’t really interested I n learning anything about Christ- and therefore this conversation will be over- I’ll not argue with someone who denies that Christ is Lord and who obviously just wants to attempt to garner more fodder to falsely throw at Christians In the future- You asked me for verses- I gave them to you- Do what you want with them- but there they are - You can say ‘nuh uh’ all you like, But Christ IS God, and Christ hates many things and people because His Godship and holiness demands it
John 31:
“But so that the world may know that I love the Father, I only do exactly as the Father has instructed me to do. Arise, let us go from here.”
case closed, so I guess you cant find any quotes that you claimed exist.
There is a reason why we still remember Hammurabi’s code.
i’ll even hold your hand one more time by giving you one more clue
“hypostatic union”
Look it up- educate yourself- it explains how Christ was BOTH fully human AND Fully God-
lemme know when you’ve come to understand the concept
like I said libs- you can keep showing off your ignorance of Christ and the bible OR you can google what I suggested and find out the truth for yourself- but whatever- keep posting those verses- it shows you complete lack of understanding o n the issue- I gave you a lead to educate yourself, but apparently you aren’t interested In the truth-
Post all the verses you like- non of them will undermine the FACt that Christ was fully man AND fully God- they only strengthen that fact-
have a nice day-
How come I can find so many direct quotes from Jesus , but you cant?
you keep on going back to the Old Testament(Torah) quotes of Jehovah.
If you are a practicing Jew instead of Christian then lecturing others on Jesus doesn’t make any sense.
[[case closed,]]
Lol- the case is nowhere near ‘closed’ because it is painfully obvious you are ignorant of Who Christ is and What He is- As I said, please keep posting those verses, they just strengthen the FACT that Christ was both human and God at the same time
While you’re at it- look up ‘trinity’ as well- educate yourself before attempting to make your aRguments- it behooves you unless you care nothing about being well informed when you make your arguments? (It’s becoming obvious that you don’t)
[[How come I can find so many direct quotes from Jesus , but you cant?]]
I did find direct quotes from Jesus- as I said- either educate yourself on hypostatic union or don’t- I don’t care- but it’s your loss if you don’t
Shalom, you should convert to Christianity.
They call it being a reformed Jew.
We don’t need to offer sacrifices at a Temple anymore.
Jesus came and took care of that.
in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word WAS god
Isaiah 9:6 “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government shall be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace.”
Again, look up hypostatic union- you’re digging yourself deeper and deeper by not understanding the concept- Jesus did NOT cease being God when He came to earth to be fully man AND fully God- If you won’t take the time to educate yourself on the issue, then there’s not much left to discuss because your argument is based on unbiblical error and you have apparently no desire to rectify your mistake
Like I said- lemme know when you’ve come to understand hypostatic union and the trinity-
[[Shalom, you should convert to Christianity.
They call it being a reformed Jew.
We don’t need to offer sacrifices at a Temple anymore.
Jesus came and took care of that.]]
Is that seriously where you are going to take this discussion? When you feel like discussing the issue of Christ’s Godship further In a mature manner- lemme know
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