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Putin threat of nuclear showdown over Baltics
The Times ^ | April 1, 2015 | Ben Hoyle and Michael Evans

Posted on 04/01/2015 4:31:24 PM PDT by free_life

President Putin is using the threat of a nuclear showdown over the Baltic states to force Nato to back away from Russia’s border, according to notes of a secret meeting between intelligence figures from Moscow and Washington.

Western security chiefs are braced for the Kremlin to begin a series of “destabilising actions” in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania that would directly challenge Nato’s mutual defence pledge.

These could involve civil disturbances involving local ethnic Russians,

(Excerpt) Read more at thetimes.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: baltics; balticstates; crimea; donetsk; estonia; ethnicrussians; europeanunion; latvia; lithuania; nato; neclearwar; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis; vladtheimploder
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To: demshateGod

I have wondered about that as well - given the scum that infests the WH now. Obama would probably want to “negotiate” with them and take it to the UN.


81 posted on 04/02/2015 6:34:10 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: okie01

No, No, No, No, and No.

Neither would any Republican president.


82 posted on 04/02/2015 6:39:04 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

So you say NATO is a paper tiger that folds at the first challenge? Things are not ideal, but what makes you say THAT?


83 posted on 04/02/2015 6:54:58 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: skeeter
The Baltics have their own ‘diversity’ issues.

At the link there is a graphic with the percentages of Russians. Estonia and Latvia have about 25%; Lithuania just under 6%. It wouldn't take much for Putin to stir up the first two.

84 posted on 04/02/2015 6:56:15 AM PDT by CedarDave (Bush vs. Clinton in 2016 - If you have a 22-year old car, the bumper stickers are still good.)
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To: CedarDave

Hey CedarDave,

I post from Estonia. Russia tried it against us in their massive operation in 2007. First of all most of the Russians living here retreated to their homes as being part of horrible Russia is the last thing they want. Belligerent “youth” (many of them being Russian “vacationers”) were arrested by the police. Plastic strip around their arms and thrown into ship terminal to lie in their own piss and think about their life choices.

Same would happen in 2015. Ringleaders shot and the rest taken to lie in their own piss and think about what they did. Only massive Russian invasion would turn the tides against us.


85 posted on 04/02/2015 7:05:57 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: riverdawg

True the French have more backbone, but they have experience. Is Kerry competent to pen a surrender all by himself even with ValJar direction?


86 posted on 04/02/2015 7:11:31 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: 1Old Pro

After surrendering to Iran John Kerry said Global Warming is next on his agenda. Really.


87 posted on 04/02/2015 7:16:13 AM PDT by McGruff (Boy that Ted Cruz sure is catching alot of flak.)
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To: raybbr
Who would launch nukes against Russia?

China.

88 posted on 04/02/2015 8:16:25 AM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: free_life

Putin is acting like North Korea.

Look over here, over here, don’t you see how fearsome I am; pay attention to me me me me me me ..!!!

Don’t pay attention to Iran (or you might find out I’m helping Iran to get their nuke program up and running); just look over here, over here.

These stupid Americans .. they’re ruining everything.


89 posted on 04/02/2015 8:17:49 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("The hour has arrived to gather the Harvest")
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To: Steamburg
“Is Kerry competent to pen a surrender all by himself even with ValJar direction?”

No, I don't think Kerry is competent to negotiate his way to the men's bathroom.

90 posted on 04/02/2015 8:18:15 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: tet68
Agreed. Sadly, in both the Korean and Vietnam conflicts the commanding generals frequently begged Washington to unleash the nukes. Of course, to no avail.
91 posted on 04/02/2015 8:43:18 AM PDT by ExSoldier ("Terrorists: They hate you yesterday, today, and tomorrow. End it, no more tomorrows for them!)
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To: Krosan

What percentage of Estonians are armed?

You say the Russian speaking population in Estonia wants nothing to do with being part of Russia?


92 posted on 04/02/2015 1:46:33 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Krosan

Thanks for responding and its a treat to talk to someone on the edge of Russia as surely you know more about what is going on with the Russians than we do here in Texas.

It may come as some consolation to you that many millions of Americans have been arming themselves in recent years too. Some do it because they live in criminal neighborhoods and some because they fear the game vernment.

As for your 17 year old son, that’s such an existential and personal question that I am reluctant to weigh in on it other than to say I wish the both of you extreme good luck!

Stay in touch!


93 posted on 04/02/2015 3:18:37 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: lodi90

Potemkin or not, Russia won the war against Georgia even while we tried to support it.

Russia seems to have virtually won over Ukraine.

Don’t they also support Iran - and no one seems to have touched them?


94 posted on 04/04/2015 9:09:53 AM PDT by mbj
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To: RetiredArmy

Definitely! (Someday.) And until it comes, we’ll all probably have to pay taxes, on top of that!

Unless the Lord Jesus comes first, I mean...


95 posted on 04/04/2015 9:12:18 AM PDT by mbj
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To: mbj

The Russkies, in fact, did not achieve their objectives in Ukraine. Crimea was taken, yes, but the full territory of “NovoRussiya”, that Russian fantasy, still remains in Ukrainian hands. The Russkies, even after pumping Russian soldiers and advanced weaponry into Ukraine, are still only holding a small sliver of the East. That is why the Russkies are screwing around with cease fires and international agreements, because they’re hoping to use these negotiations to gobble up more territory. For example, agree to a ceasefire, have the Ukrainians pull back, then take more territory by accusing the Ukrainians of breaking the cease fire and pretending that the Ukrainians attack by marching in reverse, then negotiate a new cease fire.


96 posted on 04/04/2015 4:59:09 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: free_life

Who’s going to stop Putin from doing anything he wants to do?


97 posted on 04/05/2015 7:19:07 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are RINO voters.)
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To: plain talk; All

Obama wouldn’t use them if we where DIRECTLY attacked.


98 posted on 04/05/2015 8:56:16 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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