Posted on 04/07/2015 4:33:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Vijay Chokal-Ingam, the brother of writer and actress Mindy Kaling, has sparked controversy with his new book, in which he claims to have been admitted to medical school after posing as a black man.
In the book, titled "Almost Black," Chokal-Ingam claims that he pretended to be a black man after believing certain medical schools practiced affirmative action policies that gave black students an edge in the application process. Chokal-Ingam says he shaved his head, trimmed his "long Indian eyelashes," and used his middle name, Jojo, in an attempt to pass for black. His application also stressed his time spent in Africa, where he and his family lived before moving to the United States.
Chokal-Ingam applied to a number of U.S. medical schools including Harvard, Cornell, and the University of Pennsylvania in the 1998 application cycle. He claims on the book website that he "never lied about anything on my application, except my race." The website has significant documentation that Chokal-Ingam says proves his theory. With a grade point average of 3.1, Chokal-Ingamwas accepted into St. Louis University in 1999. He eventually dropped out of the school after deciding not to pursue medicine.
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Is that from the movie Soul Man?
Yeah, sure. That’s why, when they find skeletal remains, a pathologist can determine the race of the person they belonged to in about 30 seconds. Because it’s all just a construct. /sarc
I can see that ... I still kind of like the principle, though.
Because of affirmative action I suspect and have doubts about any minority medical professional.
How black is Black? What is the measure?
Mark Twain exposed the artificiality of race in "Pudd'nhead Wilson". A good read, as are all of Twain's.
S okay.
We have a black president who posed as an Indonesian to get into college...
Worse. He had to BE AN INDONESIAN to go to college. He had no usa documentation, but he was an INDONESIAN citizen, so Indonesia most likely paid for his college.
Right, because Mark Twain was a scientist. /sarc
“Because of affirmative action I suspect and have doubts about any minority medical professional.”
Not Asians
Have you read "Pudd'nhead Wilson"? Do you even know the theme of the book?
Perhaps you could point me toward a scientific description of what constitutes being "Black".
True, however most Asians didn't have to use affirmative action to be selected and excel in professional schools. There are exceptions but overall, many blacks undeservedly were admitted into professional schools without the proper qualifications, ethics or aptitude (ie the Alan Bakke Case).
“Have you read “Pudd’nhead Wilson”? Do you even know the theme of the book? “
No, but I think it is quite safe to assume it has nothing to do with science or biology.
“Perhaps you could point me toward a scientific description of what constitutes being “Black”.”
No, “black” was never a racial classification, so that literature doesn’t exist.
“True, however most Asians didn’t have to use affirmative action to be selected and excel in professional schools. There are exceptions but overall, many blacks undeservedly were admitted into professional schools without the proper qualifications, ethics or aptitude (ie the Alan Bakke Case). “
You don’t need to inform me about Asians. I am in California where Asians and Hispanics both outnumber blacks. Fortunately.
I don’t believe “diversity” is a “compelling state interest.”
My niece just finished her bachelors in just 3 years, and is applying to medical schools. She readily knows she probably won’t get into any of the UC schools, since she is white, and rich.
(And the UC schools are among the very best; Davis, Berkeley, Irvine, UCLA etc.)
OK. Let me rephrase the question in your terminology. Can you point me toward racial classification definitions in the scientific literature?
“Can you point me toward racial classification definitions in the scientific literature?”
Well, there are varying definitions depending on what classification system you are talking about. Here is a good summary about the different kinds of models and their limitations:
http://anthro.palomar.edu/vary/vary_2.htm
I don’t believe “diversity” is a “compelling state interest.”
1) The overarching goal of any State is to grow and sustain its power.
2) Christianity puts more value on the individual than on the collective, and especially more than on the State.
3) “Diversity” is really a code word. It doesn’t mean a collection of “diverse” people or ideas. It simply means LESS of the prevailing Christian culture, and fewer Christians (proxied as “white/european”).
Diversity has the goal of reducing Christian philosophy in the society, thereby eliminating values contrary to the growth of the State.
...from the reference:
Since the number of "races" can be so easily changed by the way they are defined, it is clear that they do not really exist as distinct biological groupings of people. Instead, they are arbitrary creations that reflect our ethnocentric views of ourselves and other people. They are mainly cultural rather than biological groupings.
It's a social construct, much as Twain wittily conveyed as only Twain can, in "Pudd'nhead Wilson". "Pudd'nhead Wilson" was published 1894 and it does a better job blowing up the absurdity of "race" than any other publication I can think of.
“It’s a social construct...”
Funny, then, that pathologists can divine what “social construct” a person belonged to by looking at their skeleton. How do you figure they can do that?
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