Posted on 04/09/2015 5:06:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
Bill Jack wants to make one thing perfectly clear: Bakers should not be forced to make a cake that would violate their conscience or freedom of expression.
Jack, of Castle Rock, Colo., is making national headlines over an experiment he conducted in the wake of attacks on Christian business owners who refuse to provide services for same-sex marriages.
Last year, the Colorado Civil Rights Commission ruled that the Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood unlawfully discriminated against a gay couple who wanted a wedding cake. Jack Phillips, the owner of the cake shop, is a devout Christian, and his attorneys argued that to force him to participate in the gay wedding would violate his religious beliefs.
The Civil Rights Commission saw it differently.
So if Christian bakers who oppose gay marriage are compelled under law to violate their beliefs – what about bakers who support gay marriage? Would they be compelled to make an anti-gay marriage cake?
Jack, who is a devout Christian, asked three bakeries to produce two cakes – each shaped like an open Bible.
On one side of one cake he requested the words, “God hates sin – Psalm 45:7.” On the other side he wanted the words, “Homosexuality is a detestable sin – Leviticus 18:22.”
On the second cake he asked them to write another Bible verse: “While we were yet sinners Christ died for us – Romans 5:8” along with the words “God loves sinners.”
And finally, Jack wanted the bakers to create an image – two grooms holding hands, with a red “X” over them – the universal symbol for “not allowed.”
Now if you read the national news accounts of Jack’s experiment – you would’ve read that he wanted gay slurs written on the cakes. But that wasn’t true.
According to the commission’s own report, there’s no mention of Jack using any gay slurs – unless you consider Bible verses to be gay slurs.
Mark Silverstein, the legal director for Colorado’s chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, accused Jack of wanting obscenities written on the cakes.
“There’s no law that says that a cake-maker has to write obscenities in the cake just because the customer wants it,” he told the Associated Press.
Does the ACLU consider the Bible to be obscene?
As you probably guessed, the bakeries rejected Jack’s request for what some would call “anti-gay” cakes.
“If he wants to hate people, he can hate them not here in my bakery,” Azucar Bakery owner Marjorie Silva told 7NEWS. She called the writing and imagery “hateful and offensive.”
So Jack filed a discrimination complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission – just as the gay couple did in the Masterpiece Cakeshop case.
Using the commission’s logic – if a Christian baker is forced to violate his beliefs, shouldn’t all bakers be forced to violate theirs, too?
Absolutely not, says the Colorado Civil Rights Commission.
It ruled that Azucar did not discriminate against Jack based on his creed. It argued that the bakery refused to make the cakes because of the “derogatory language and imagery,” The Denver Channel reported.
Jack told me it’s a double standard – pure and simple.
“I think it is hypocritical,” he said. “It’s unequal treatment before the law. The Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act is being used to coerce businesses to participate in events that violate their consciences.”
Jack said he decided to conduct his experiment to prove the Colorado law was “only being applied to Christian business people.”
“Christians need to understand that this is the state of Christianity in the United States,” he said. “We are now second-class citizens. Our free speech is being censored.”
To be clear, Jack believes the bakeries had the right to deny him service. His point was to draw attention to the hypocrisy.
“I stand for liberty for all, not liberty for some,” he said. “If we don’t have liberty for all, then we have liberty for none.”
Alliance Defending Freedom is a religious liberty law firm that represents the Masterpiece Cakeshop.
It believes the Civil Rights Commission reached the right conclusion in Jack’s case, but it blasted the commission’s inconsistencies when it came to the case involving its client.
“The commission’s inconsistent rulings mean that the owners of these three cake shops may run them according to their beliefs, while Jack cannot,” ADF attorney Jeremy Tedesco said.
“These cake artists should not be forced to violate their conscience, but clearly the commission should have done the same for Jack Phillips,” he said. “He risks losing his lifelong business altogether if he continues to run it consistent with his faith. Such blatant religious discrimination has no place in our society.”
That’s a great point. If the owner of Azucar Bakery can run her business according to her beliefs – why can’t the owner of the Masterpiece Cakeshop?
See my tagline. Simple as that.
He has made a good point and if these bakers won’t make a cake which has Bible verses on it then it is discrimination.
Of course the media won’t cover this like they did over homosexuals suing people.
Sometimes I feel like I’m in an upside down world.
This is what happens when northeast progressives flood a state. Damn locusts.
This is not over. I am pretty sure the unbelievable hypocrisy and failure to follow the law will be revisited.
And it will be very costly to certain individuals.
Since this was in Colorado, those commissioners were probably high on the weed too.
Ping
A lot of this started happening decades ago because of Tim Gill, billionaire founder of QuarkXPress, a hugely popular computer program for page layout and publishing that he developed in the late 80s–early 90s. Other developers couldn't touch its usefulness until much later, giving Quark the clear lead in profitability. He in turn spearheaded and funded the gay promotion in Colorado and elsewhere. He was born in Indiana but went to university in Colorado, which is how his carpetbagging got started.
I am certain that a Muslim baker would have no problem at all denying a gay couple their cake. It is only Christians who are bigots.
Nonsense. If a baker won’t make anti-Gay cakes for ANYBODY, that’s fine. If he’ll make one for 9 people, but not the 10th because of their race, religion, or sexual preference...that’s discrimination.
If one takes sexuality or religion out of it, what remains is the true basis - PROPERTY RIGHTS; the right to run your business as you choose without government interference or regulation.
The free market will decide which (bakery) business succeeds or not.
That is interesting. Thanks for the info.
Different laws for different groups
welcome to apartheid
That woman baker was not sued in civil court, the prosecutor filed charges if I remember correctly. No way they treat Gay or Muslim bakers to the same standard
‘Sometimes I feel like I’m in an upside down world.’
How about at least once a day - ?
‘Since this was in Colorado,_______________’
Ya know, I keep remembering how one of our sons-in-law moved his family of wife and 2 very young sons from Calif. to CO in 1995 because he believed we in Ventura County were about to be run over by bad elements from Los Angeles, 40 miles away.
They weren’t in CO long before Columbine happened. Schools in a certain radius were on lockdown - no one in or out, windows with shades down, if no shades, paper taped to cover them; police zooming around, helicopters overhead, teachers fibbing to their classes - I’ve probably forgotten everything.
Then there was the murder in a Littleton gift shop of a cousin to a family member here in Calif.
A few years ago the/some Littleton schools (our grandkid’s) were on yet another lockdown because of a nut in the neighborhood brandishing a gun. .
And another high school incident not long ago. Was it in Centennial? Grandkids’ schools on lockdown yet again.
I like being in CO to visit this daughter, but cannot forget how she got there in the first place.
(Hope you followed that - )!
The best thing I remember about the colorado was that their hunting season along the northern border was a week prior to Wyoming’s. Made for better hunting in Wyoming.
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