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Support a Convention of States to end the tyranny of the federal government
cleveland.com ^ | 4/12/15 | Jim Petsche

Posted on 04/12/2015 7:21:25 AM PDT by cotton1706

Are you aware of the grave and serious problem that is threatening your liberty and the security of the United States? The current Congress gives Washington, D.C., including the Internal Revenue Service and the Environmental Protection Agency, more and more power to "legislate" and enforce laws that illegally circumvent the Constitution.

Our political process has been corrupted and the federal bureaucracy has produced severe regulatory burdens that have caused our national debt to grow to $19 trillion.

And there is another $100 trillion coming due in vested Social Security benefits and other programs. We are in a financial crisis that is unsustainable.

Congress has turned state legislatures into their regional agencies rather than respecting them as truly independent sovereign governments.

If we "citizens" do not intervene, then the federal government will continue to bankrupt this nation, embezzle the legitimate authority of the states, and destroy the liberty of the people.

Thankfully, the Founding Fathers were prepared for what is happening today, and provided us with Article V of the Constitution, which empowers individual states to propose amendments.

It was George Mason who wanted this option for "application of the legislatures" for "proposing amendments" because he believed that Congress and the individual states should have equal authority in this matter.

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To: glorgau

I can’t understand how continuing what the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation etc. have been planning, and working toward since 1963 can work out well.


21 posted on 04/12/2015 8:28:08 AM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: cotton1706

The states would increase the tyranny. Most Americans right now don’t believe government should be limited, and most do not believe in any protection for religion or speech that disagrees with them. It would be like asking infants to write a textbook.

Besides, the anti-Constitutionalists were right - words on paper never limit the power grab of a government that exists in reality. The courts and legislatures will ALWAYS redefine things until black means white and they have power. If you create the structure that supports power, then no words will stop it from taking power.


22 posted on 04/12/2015 8:31:56 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: mountainlion

Amen. You can kiss the 2A good bye and/or the 5A, the 1A would be gutted.


23 posted on 04/12/2015 8:47:41 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: cotton1706

I don’t have any particular illusions that a Convention might solve any problems. But I support it, because at this point, I look at America and see there is no longer anything left to lose.


24 posted on 04/12/2015 8:48:10 AM PDT by greene66
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To: cotton1706
Congress has turned state legislatures into their regional agencies

This is true. And state legislatures have sold out.

25 posted on 04/12/2015 8:51:50 AM PDT by marron
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To: cotton1706
For those who think the Article V process is too risky, I ask, "What other options do you see?"

To summarize from a previous post by GraceG, I see it as:

1. Elect More Republicans - Failed due to RINO/Uni-party confluence.

2. Article V Convention of States to propose Amendments - Needed to try to take power from the federal government back to the states and reel in the federal leviathan.

3. State Nullification - Last ditch effort to try to take power back from the federal monster, though by this point it may be too late.

4. State Secession - Could either end up peaceably like the breakup of the Czechoslovakia in 1993 or a brutal:

5. Civil War II like the first one.... The longer we wait on #2, the more likely #3, then #4 and finally #5. .

Quick review: We need 34 states to pass an application, then Congress shall, by law, call a Convention of States as soon as it receives applications from 2/3 of the State Legislatures. That's 34 states. We now have 30 working on it. Amendments are proposed and voted on at the convention. Each Amendment must be ratified by ¾ of the states in order to become part of the US Constitution. That’s 38 states. “There are far more political and legal constraints on a runaway convention than on a runaway Congress.” - Robert Natelson

Most FReepers are aware of these links, but I post anyway for review and for people new to Article V. It is our responsibility to make Article V the most understood aspect of the US Constitution.

****Please see this summary video from Alabama first: Convention of States - Alabama Way to go Alabama! A great introduction!

Rep. Bill Taylor introduces a Convention of States

The Case for an Article V Convention. Great explanation of an Article V convention to the Massachusetts State Legislature.

**** Convention of States Lots of information here.

Call a Convention A call for a Convention of States

Article V Project to Restore Liberty Another good source.

Convention of States model Resolution

A Summary of Mark Levin’s Proposed Amendments by Jacquerie

Chapter 1 of Mark Levin’s Book, The Liberty Amendments

Mark Levin, Constitution Article V, and the Liberty Amendments

Mark Levin: “The Liberty Amendments” - Complete Sean Hannity Special + other Links

List of Mark Levin You Tube Videos

Mark Levin Article V, Liberty Amendments youtube video hub

Three hour video of C-Span interview with Mark Levin

*** Mark Levin’s ALEC Speech, Dec 4, 2014

Gaining Steam? Nearly 100 Lawmakers Descend on Mount Vernon to Talk Convention of States The beginning.

Mark Levin’s “Liberty Amendments” Sean Hannity Special

We can fight the uniparty! States, the Natural Second Party by Jacquerie

Convention to Propose Amendments to the United States Constitution

The Other Way to Amend the Constitution: The Article V Constitutional Convention Amendment Process

Amendment Booklet.pdf

Friends of Article V Convention Links

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention:

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part I)

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a convention. (Part II)

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part III)

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part IV)

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part V)

Congress’ Failure to Call an Amendments Convention. (Part VI)

Ulysses at the Mast: Democracy, Federalism, and the Sirens' Song of the Seventeenth Amendment by Jay Bybee. Repeal the 17th. Shorter Abstract here: Ulysses at the Mast, one page Abstract

****For those of you that still have doubts about the Article V process, please review: Responses To Convention Of States Opposition My initial concerns were resolved after reading these articles. My attitude now is Go For It!

Update: Convention of States by the numbers The current State count

Convention of States Gaining Momentum April 8, 2015, the most recent status

Article V Latest News

Article V Handbook - for State Legislators An important resource.

**** State Legislators Article V Caucus State Legislators, Join up at this site!

Most State Legislatures are in session now. Send this list of links to your State Representatives and Senators here: Contact your State Legislators.

Sample Letter to state Representatives regarding the Convention of States Project and also, Talking Points.

Excellent Article V Letter to a State Assemblyman by Jacquerie

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

Let’s all work together to get this going.

26 posted on 04/12/2015 10:26:53 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

With no snark intended, how do you define tyranny?


27 posted on 04/12/2015 11:31:04 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: NRx

Huh? Congress has nothing to do with the parliamentary rules of the convention.


28 posted on 04/12/2015 11:33:51 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Skywise
The only worthwhile amendments are structural, like repeal of the 17th Amendment, which cannot be ignored.
29 posted on 04/12/2015 11:35:50 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
By the very term, “con-con” you tag yourself as someone not worth listening to.
30 posted on 04/12/2015 11:37:03 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: TomGuy
We live in Obama tyranny. There is nothing to lose.
31 posted on 04/12/2015 11:38:43 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: aimhigh

The answer is to return to the Framers’ structure, and return the senate to the states.


32 posted on 04/12/2015 11:39:54 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Snickering Hound

The only worthwhile amendments structural, like returning the senate to the states.


33 posted on 04/12/2015 11:40:56 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: itsahoot

No, it is the time of Sulla. Let’s prevent a Caesar.


34 posted on 04/12/2015 11:41:44 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Mr Rogers

Fine. You oppose free government. Why do you bother posting to FR?


35 posted on 04/12/2015 11:43:12 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: bjorn14

The are around 1.1 guns/American. Let me know when you find a peace officer brave enough to go around and collect our weapons.


36 posted on 04/12/2015 11:44:23 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: 5thGenTexan; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Arthur Wildfire! March; ...

37 posted on 04/12/2015 12:23:11 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Jacquerie
With no snark intended, how do you define tyranny?

Rule by persons who lack legitimacy.

38 posted on 04/12/2015 12:35:04 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: Art in Idaho

Thank you for your informative posts on these threads, Art.


39 posted on 04/12/2015 12:43:38 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: Jacquerie
The only worthwhile amendments (are) structural, like returning the senate to the states.

That seems to me to be the difficult part, I think that a great deal of the honest fear and doubt comes from not understanding the power of structural amendments.

40 posted on 04/12/2015 12:48:20 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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