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Punishing 'climate change deniers'
American Thinker ^ | 4/13/15 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 04/13/2015 3:17:42 AM PDT by markomalley

Failing to convince the public that global warming, is and urgent cause for concern, hysterical fear-mongers are turning to the armory of tyrants, and demanding punishment for those they call “deniers,” consciously inking Holocaust denial. The recent rebranding of their cause as “climate change creates a certain awkwardness, as nobody denies that climate has and always will change. Glaciers, after all, covered a good part of the northern tier of the United States, carving out the Great Lakes, for example.

Nonetheless, the hysterics demand that “climate change deniers” be punished, even killed, and the call extends to from the spittle-slecked fanatics to the usually sober New York Times (see below). Christopher Monckton, The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, has compiled a valuable list of those calling for the abrogation of free speech and punishment of dissidents, he writes:

It is not yet clear to me that the totalitarian persecution of climate skeptics is any more beneficial than the persecution of those who opposed eugenics in Fascist Germany or Lysenko's nonsense in Soviet Russia.

For we are far too timid in fighting back against extremist language of the sort that is well evidenced in the attached list. I managed to silence the dreadful Parncutt because he was based in Austria, where his demand that climate skeptics be executed is a hate crime - a serious, imprisonable offense. Similarly, I have more or less entirely shut down such rhetoric in Scotland, which also has laws against hate speech.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: globalwarminghoax; planetgore
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1 posted on 04/13/2015 3:17:42 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Very first sentence should be run thru grammar check.

That’s never a good sign for the article.


2 posted on 04/13/2015 3:20:57 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I agree. I had to stop before the end of the first sentence to check the source.


3 posted on 04/13/2015 3:44:24 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: markomalley

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


4 posted on 04/13/2015 3:44:25 AM PDT by abclily
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To: markomalley

Climate change deniers should all be rounded up, just like cattle, and placed in camps where they can be convinced that climate change is a man-made phenomenon that can be remedied by high taxes, the elimination of the rich, the closing of power stations, the elimination of hydro carbons, and the dictatorship of the proletariat.

/s/

IMHO


5 posted on 04/13/2015 3:56:20 AM PDT by ripley
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To: abclily

Sorry, but that is just not a good argument.

Very often subtle changes can have huge impacts. A teeny tiny amount of botulin toxin will kill you dead right there. Size doesn’t always matter.

I have yet to see conclusive evidence of AGW, but this particular argument isn’t one of the many good ones against it.


6 posted on 04/13/2015 3:59:53 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: markomalley

Liberals view free speech as a one way street. My truck was keyed Sat because someone didn’t like my bumper stickers. This to a liberal is free speech as I should not be allowed to say anything they don’t like.

BTW, I think the bumper sticker they didn’t like was the “less than” sign. I’m sure it was done out of love since we are the “haters”.


7 posted on 04/13/2015 4:00:05 AM PDT by logic101.net (If libs believe in Darwin and natural selection why do they get hacked off when it happens?)
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To: Sherman Logan

It is THE argument, thank you.


8 posted on 04/13/2015 4:05:11 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Sherman Logan

One of the best arguments involves looking at the temperature graphs for the past 640,000 years and realizing the cycle has gone from ice age to warm period and back all those other times with nary an SUV or coal-fired power plant. If these things occurred in nature before without significant human intervention before, it stands to reason that we are not the driving force in the equation.


9 posted on 04/13/2015 4:12:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: logic101.net

If you were parked at a VIP parking spot on the USC campus in Columbia, the guy who would have keyed your ride would have gotten a verbal warning and pay for damages. This is based on a very real and true episode. The name of the offender is omitted.


10 posted on 04/13/2015 4:17:16 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: markomalley

“Glaciers, after all, covered a good part of the northern tier of the United States, carving out the Great Lakes, for example.”.........

The following is a TRUE statement made to me by a local school teacher a few years back. Talk about “brain washed”. When the issue of global warming first surfaced and the scare that the glaciers might be melting, the teacher told me she wanted to hurry to Alaska to see a glacier before they all melted away. This is what was conveyed to the kids in a circulation similar to the old “Weekly Reader” we used to get when we were in school. Nothing like getting these kids (and in this case teachers) to believe “the sky is falling, the sky is falling”. garbage.


11 posted on 04/13/2015 4:18:21 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Sherman Logan

Lifsons articles frequently have grammatical errors of some sort.


12 posted on 04/13/2015 4:18:32 AM PDT by digger48
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To: ripley

Ref. Post 5,

It’s already being done, in a places called “Public Schools”


13 posted on 04/13/2015 4:21:23 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: abclily
I disagree.

Montgomery Burns has demonstrated he can control the sun.


14 posted on 04/13/2015 4:25:24 AM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Smokin' Joe
and here it is....cycle is like clockwork... the intergalcial warming period is coming to an end... the reason that some scientists beleive we heading to colder, not warmer weather... In addition... notice how CO2 concentrations follow warming and cooling...
15 posted on 04/13/2015 4:28:04 AM PDT by PigRigger
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To: Smokin' Joe

Sorry, but I don’t think that it is a particularly good argument either.

Because process A has happened in the past without human intervention, it doesn’t mean that humans aren’t having an effect on it now.

For example, there have been multiple waves of species extinction. But that doesn’t mean humans didn’t cause the loss of most of the megafauna of the Americas around 12,000 years ago.

BTW, I think that particular issue is not settled. But I’m correct that previous waves of extinction not being caused by humans does not prove this one wasn’t caused by people.

To my mind the best evidence against AGW is negative. The climate is an incredibly complicated system, and we don’t fully understand it.

If you actually get into the mechanics of the computer projections, most of the factors the feed into them can’t really be measured accurately. So they’re estimated, which is another way of saying “guessed at.”

Then how these factors interact and their feedback loops are to a great degree estimated.

They the data, consisting largely of guesses, is fed into a supercomputer and very precisely crunched.

What do you get when you number crunch guesses? A guess with a veneer of science and precision laid over it.


16 posted on 04/13/2015 4:31:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: markomalley
I just sent this article to my high school sophomore daughter.

The timing is great because last night (at my insistence), she and I watched The Great Global Warming Swindle.

I showed it to her because last week she was forced to sit through Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" in her biology class (taking up two classes) and was then given the most horrendous assignment filling out a propaganda sheet on how she could lower her "ecological footprint."

I have been in touch with her school's "Curriculum Dept.," and have made it my mission to force the school to show "The Great Global Warming Swindle" as an answer to the Gore film.

My daughter is all for the effort, and is determined to challenge her biology teacher on the subject now.

Regardless of whether we are successful, this has been (and will be)an important learning experience for my daughter.

17 posted on 04/13/2015 4:31:15 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: digger48

I guess I shouldn’t be so snippy.

But grammatical and spelling errors, except for obvious typos, which can happen to anyone, really put a crimp in the credibility of an article, at least for me.

If you want to be taken seriously, put some effort into proper spelling and grammar!

I get perhaps a dozen phishing emails a day. With rare exceptions they’re obviously not from Bank of America or PayPal, simply because of grammar. Major corporations don’t communicate that poorly.


18 posted on 04/13/2015 4:34:05 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
"BTW, I think that particular issue is not settled. But I’m correct that previous waves of extinction not being caused by humans does not prove this one wasn’t caused by people."

Take a look at the list of species that went extinct at that time. The "over-hunting" theory is a stupid joke.

19 posted on 04/13/2015 4:35:13 AM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Flag_This

The problem is that very, very similar waves followed closely on human appearance on many landmasses.

Australia, Madagascar, various other islands.

The alternative explanations all ignore the fact that previous ending of glacial periods saw no such major extinction events.

As said, I don’t think it’s settled. It is probable humans playe a role, but it might have been minor or major. Unlikely they were the primary cause.


20 posted on 04/13/2015 4:38:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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