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To: Lakeshark; RitaOK; Finny
Lakeshark: Your point is well taken that we lacked good candidates last time and that this time we have Walker, Cruz and, I would argue, others.

In order to avoid the scenario you have posited in which Jeb Bush benefits from conservative division, we, as conservatives, must arrive at an early consensus candidate and deliver the bad news, with respect, to the rest. The crucial moment to accomplish this is BEFORE the delegate contests begin.

We also need to insist that each and every conservative candidate accept this arrangement and also agree to campaign like never before to elect the chosen conservative nominee.

While I presently favor Walker, I am certainly open to others including Rubio, Cruz, and even Paul (with substantial reservations needing to be cleared in his case). I may be forgetting others but I think those are the main contenders.

We cannot insist on perfection but we can guide any of them closer to perfection as a limit. There will be a flood of money behind Jeb Bush but money is only good to facilitate the gathering of votes. Romney had plenty of that money last time but he never got the votes of me and many here. If we stick together as a determined band of principled conservatives, choose one candidate and vote for that candidate in the delegate contests, then no amount of money can stop our chosen candidate from being nominated and, if we have chosen well, from being elected POTUS.

Hillary is a shopworn, weary old thing afflicted with a sense of unjustified entitlement. She is very close to being as old as I am. and that is NOT good news for her enthusiasts. Only in leftist world is the Medusa entitled to anything and then mostly in her own mind. The Demonrats are going to do us a major favor by nominating her. Elizabeth Fauxcahontas Warren would be a far fresher face and formidable opponent. Unlike Hillary, Fauxcahontas has genuine political talent and a capacity for credible populism, despite her ethnic fantasy. The radicals pushing Warren to run are a lot smarter than the usual gang of suspects around the Medusa.

91 posted on 04/14/2015 9:32:20 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk
I think we are on the same general wave length. I only disagree concerning Rubio, who I suspect may be a stalking horse for Jeb, siphoning votes with his charisma from our preferred candidates. I loved Rubio when he came on the scene, but no longer trust him. His alliance with Chuck Schumer, and his bald faced lies told to us on the Rush Limbaugh show take him out for me. Perhaps in eight years he will have once again proved his conservative bona fides and I would reconsider.

My hope is that we can figure out how to find the best and strongest horse in this race early and can consolidate early. I prefer Cruz (will say why in another post) to Walker, you prefer Walker to Cruz, I can live with either, I believe you can as well. I also believe during this early time that we spend our time promoting the candidate we like, rather than tearing the other one down.

My proposal would go something like this: After the first two, three or so primaries (we would need to pick a fixed number), if one of them becomes ascendant in the polls, we agree to move that one forward as our candidate, the candidate for conservatives. That would necessitate abandoning the other until we have a winner.

I know this is a pipe dream of sorts, but think it may be necessary to beat Jeb and his money. I think we should come to some kind of agreement on this site, informally, and up front.

101 posted on 04/14/2015 11:00:20 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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