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1 posted on 04/14/2015 6:53:14 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Uhhh....no. You just blow it up first


2 posted on 04/14/2015 6:54:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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while this isn’t good news, I am highly skeptical that anything made by the Russians works as well as advertised. If anything, the Iranians will end up over-confident because of this new system which plays into our hands if we ever get a President that actually wants to militarily prevent Iran from building nukes.


3 posted on 04/14/2015 7:00:18 AM PDT by Shamrock498
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...would effectively force the U.S. to rely on its small fleet of stealth aircraft to strike targets inside Iran in case the mullahs make a dash for the bomb...

This right here tells you this guy knows absolutely nothing about the subject. No, we wouldn't use the stealth aircraft to strike targets in Iran. The implication is they would strike the nuclear sites. Wrong. Strike fundamentals 101, use the stealth aircraft to take out the air defenses. Then all your more conventional strike aircraft can go to work.

With his implication that the small number of stealth aircraft would have to do all the work he is either wildly ignorant on the subject and/or trying to spin it. Either way, he's marked himself as an unreliable information source.

5 posted on 04/14/2015 7:02:53 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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That leaves the polar ICBM route...

Putin probably won’t be all that happy about the overflight of Russia.


7 posted on 04/14/2015 7:21:45 AM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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> would render an airstrike on Tehran’s nuclear weapons
> facilities nearly impossible.

Not for a nuclear tipped reentry vehicle.


9 posted on 04/14/2015 7:23:44 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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Not to worry.

The chances of the US attacking Iran until AFTER they nuke New York are zero, and AFTER they do, we won’t be using aircraft or surface warships.

By the way, I’m looking out a hotel window at Central Park while I’m typing, and that first Iranian nuke is going to make one hell of a big mess.


11 posted on 04/14/2015 7:27:37 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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I get the feeling Obama doesn’t give a damn, with a big side of Allahu Akbar


15 posted on 04/14/2015 7:35:08 AM PDT by Viennacon
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I would think this is where a fleet of drones that were not that expensive, but have the payload to be able to deliver some quality munitions would come in handy.

You can pretty quickly bring down the surface to air capability of a country by using drones as your advanced air attack force.


18 posted on 04/14/2015 7:59:18 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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Rods from god... kinetic strike from space.


19 posted on 04/14/2015 7:59:35 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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The sale was probably Obama Admin’s idea anyway


21 posted on 04/14/2015 8:05:23 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: pabianice

People who understand nothing about war or military conflict sound extra stupid when speculating on things that armies “cannot do”.


23 posted on 04/14/2015 8:16:09 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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This isn't the 80's. Nobody will be flying anything in that's manned. And the way to counter a system such as the S-300 is by flooding the zone with cheap drones. You can't fight a swarm of bees with a shotgun.

And a word of real-world caution: beware of gift weapons systems from the Soviets - I mean the Russians - because the phrase "monkey model" meant something back in the day.

25 posted on 04/14/2015 9:20:53 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Just because you have them in your national inventory doesn't mean you can effectively use them.

The other question is do you put them around your High Value Targets (nukes) and confirm that is where they are or do you put some around your HVTs and others around other sites as decoys?

ThunderSleeps' comments above are spot on. Take out the Air Defense and the rest becomes a lot easier.

If you are going to strike at Iran's nuclear facilities, you may as well go ahead and take out their political and military leadership. In for a penny, in for a pound.

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26 posted on 04/14/2015 9:23:40 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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"Nearly Impossible.." without losses, perhaps.
27 posted on 04/14/2015 9:43:19 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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You might have to take a B-52 and go nap of the Earth and/or “on the deck.” I’ve seem films of a B-52 flying nap of the Earth in the mountains of West Virginia, very impressive handling if you ask me. Otherwise, we might have to dodge those SAMS much like we had to with the SA-2 over Hanoi and Haiphong.


30 posted on 04/14/2015 2:05:44 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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How well does an S-300 “shoot down” a 1,000lbs iron rod falling from orbit?


31 posted on 04/14/2015 2:36:13 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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