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Senate GOP joins Dems in backing marriage benefits for same-sex ‘spouses’
LifeSiteNews ^ | 4/16/15 | Dustin Siggins

Posted on 04/17/2015 8:18:46 AM PDT by wagglebee

WASHINGTON, D.C., April 16, 2015 (LifeSiteNews.com) -- The Republican Party's platform formally supports natural marriage. But in what may be a sign of the times, the GOP-controlled Senate has approved a non-binding resolution in support of granting marriage benefits to couples who have contracted same-sex “marriages.”

The resolution asked the Senate's budget negotiators to make sure that "all legally married same-sex spouses have equal access to the Social Security and veterans' benefits they have earned and receive equal treatment under the law pursuant to the Constitution."

Approved by a voice vote, the resolution received no opposition by any senators, nor a request from senators to put the resolution to a roll call vote -- even from the three Republican senators who are candidates for U.S. president, and who oppose same-sex "marriage."

The constitutionality of same-sex "marriage" has not been declared in the United States, though some federal judges and politicians have argued that a right to such unions exists in the Constitution. The Supreme Court will hear what may be the definitive case on the matter on April 28, with a decision expected this summer.

Public opinion polls show that Americans generally support redefining marriage, with approximately 55 percent in favor. Those numbers are higher among younger voters, though nearly three-quarters of Republicans oppose same-sex "marriage."

This isn't the first time Republican senators have supported expanding federal marriage benefits to include same-sex couples. Several weeks ago, a number of senators voted for the same resolution, which passed 57-43. However, given the more conservative majority in the House, the measure is unlikely to be included in the conference budget bill.

Senators who went on the record in support of the resolution weeks ago include Sens. Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire, Richard Burr off North Carolina, Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, Susan Collins of Maine, Bob Corker of Tennessee, Dean Heller of Nevada, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Mark S. Kirk of Illinois, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Rob Portman of Ohio, and Thom Tillis of North Carolina.

POLITICO notes that electoral politics may have played a role in the votes by Ayotte, Kirk, and Johnson, all of whom face tough re-election campaigns next year.

Portman supported same-sex "marriage" after his son announced he was homosexual.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gop; homosexualagenda; romneymarriage; romneymarriage4all; samesexmarriage
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To: wagglebee

It’s amazing that with ISIS within our borders, completely open borders without even an attempt to restrict anyone, and a federal debt that boggles the mind that all Congress can find to do is extend sexual privilege.


21 posted on 04/17/2015 8:56:31 AM PDT by Kenny (,)
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To: Yogafist

Personally I think it’s just part of a bigger picture, in which the culture itself has become perverted. In which all that was once regarded as decent and virtuous is now attacked and maligned, while all that was once regarded as vile and debased is promoted and celebrated.

We are witness to America transforming into becoming a mirror opposite of everything it once represented and once stood for. We are seeing America transform into a great entity of unbridled evil.


22 posted on 04/17/2015 8:58:09 AM PDT by greene66
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To: xzins
Many fail to realize this, but the real purpose of all the campaign finance reform laws was to INSURE the joint monopoly of the Democrats and GOP.

It is effectively impossible for a third party candidate to raise enough money to compete in a presidential election and the laws are designed this way. The overwhelming majority of contributions comes from corporations and their executives and they are perfectly satisfied with the current set-up, they WILL NOT contribute to a third party candidate no matter what.

The only real chance at a national level is a candidate who can afford to fund their own campaign and is actually willing to do it. This means that there needs to be an ELECTABLE conservative with a minimum of $1 billion of their own money that they are willing to spend. I am not aware of a SINGLE person who meets this qualification (the Koch brothers are more libertarian than conservative and not actually electable; Donald Trump is a social liberal, not electable and probably unable to actually come up with that much cash; Steve Forbes is wishy-washy on social issues and doesn't have anywhere near the amount of money necessary).

There are people who could afford to self-finance senate, congressional and gubernatorial elections, but they are invariably wooed by the Democrats and Republicans.

23 posted on 04/17/2015 9:01:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I really wish you would do that. Hopefully, you would set a reasonable immigration policy as well.


24 posted on 04/17/2015 9:04:58 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: xzins

Senate approved and people thinks congress sucks.


25 posted on 04/17/2015 9:06:16 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: xzins

The libertarians are the oddballs, have you seen their party platform?


26 posted on 04/17/2015 9:14:39 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Yep. Went looking for a different home last presidential election, and they just didn’t measure up. The Constitution Party has a good platform, but as I found out, they aren’t serious about it. They’re only in it to have meetings, hold pot luck dinners, and raise money.


27 posted on 04/17/2015 9:24:42 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wagglebee
Senators who went on the record in support of the resolution weeks ago include... Bob Corker of Tennessee...

There must be something wrong; only one of our sentraitors voted for this. Lamar! must have been attending a gay wedding and missed the vote and another opportunity to betray his constituents.

28 posted on 04/17/2015 9:26:01 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: wagglebee

“granting marriage benefits”

Yep, the ruling class considers stealing my earnings (time/labor) to give to their politically favored groups as “granting rights.”

We are getting very close to a point of no return.


29 posted on 04/17/2015 9:28:41 AM PDT by CSM
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To: grobdriver; xzins
Let me know when you start accepting visas...

I never thought the day would come when a great number of Americans actually wanted to leave and didn't actually have anywhere to go.

With the exception of the Indians, America was populated primarily by people who came seeking: A. Economic opportunity and/or B. Freedom from religious or political persecution. Economic freedom still exists, but certainly not at the level it could or should, and religious and political persecution is becoming more real by the day.

In his 1964 speech, A Time for Choosing, Ronald Reagan said:

Not too long ago, two friends of mine were talking to a Cuban refugee, a businessman who had escaped from Castro, and in the midst of his story one of my friends turned to the other and said, "We don't know how lucky we are." And the Cuban stopped and said, "How lucky you are? I had someplace to escape to." And in that sentence he told us the entire story. If we lose freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth.

And a decade later in We Will Be A City Upon A Hill, Reagan concluded with:

We cannot escape our destiny, nor should we try to do so. The leadership of the free world was thrust upon us two centuries ago in that little hall of Philadelphia. In the days following World War II, when the economic strength and power of America was all that stood between the world and the return to the dark ages, Pope Pius XII said, "The American people have a great genius for splendid and unselfish actions. Into the hands of America God has placed the destinies of an afflicted mankind."

We are indeed, and we are today, the last best hope of man on earth.

America CAN be restored, but only if we have a principled leader who will do so. Barring that, the only palatable option for true Americans will be to leave the country; but, as President Reagan warned us, there's really no place to go.

30 posted on 04/17/2015 9:34:01 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: xzins

On gay marriage here is the libertarian position.

1.4 Personal Relationships
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.


31 posted on 04/17/2015 9:35:31 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

They wouldn’t admit to that including pedophilia, would they? But it doesn’t specifically exclude it.


32 posted on 04/17/2015 9:41:11 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wagglebee
...principled leaderS....

Alas, not happening.

33 posted on 04/17/2015 9:43:33 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug
Agreed. And the level of leadership that is required today is very rare, we need someone on the level of Reagan or Churchill and I'm not sure there's anyone up to it.
34 posted on 04/17/2015 9:51:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: xzins

We have strong evidence of where the libertarians are on child porn, and some of the child porn leading proponents have been libertarians, but the libertarians obviously want to defer that discussion until a later date.

It doesn’t help when the NAMBLA spokesman describes himself as a Libertarian in an interview with Spy magazine.

This 2008 Time article may explain more on that.

“”The fracas started with Mary J. Ruwart, the candidate with perhaps the deepest, purest libertarian roots (her rejection of government is so complete that some party moderates have begun warning of the anarchical dangers of “Ruwarchy”). In April, a rival called her out for her thoughts in a 1999 book called Short Answers to the Tough Questions. “Children who willingly participate in sexual acts have the right to make that decision as well, even if it’s distasteful to us personally,” Ruwart wrote. “When we outlaw child pornography, the prices paid for child performers rise, increasing the incentives for parents to use children against their will.”

Ruwart’s is a classic libertarian take — a defense of free will (even for “child performers”) and an attack on government prohibitions of any kind.

The party’s executive director, Shane Cory, saw the danger as well, and rushed out a press release titled, “Libertarians call for increased communication to combat child pornography.” Cory was attacked by hardliners who saw the release as an endorsement of increased federal prosecuting power. The party refused to vote on a resolution asking states to strongly enforce existing child porn laws. Cory resigned in protest, depriving a party in the midst of what may be its most promising election season of one of its most able organizers and fund raisers. But for many libertarian faithful, adherence to the most rigid of principles always trumps practical considerations about how those principles might be more broadly observed.
That rigidity has long been libertarianism’s greatest asset.””


35 posted on 04/17/2015 9:59:30 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: fwdude

They can see it-—they are bought or bribed or truly Marxists. Sorry this is so long, but ignore if you want. Ideas like below get purged when on most other sites, even “Catholic” ones. LOL

They are transforming the worldview of our children and embedding Marxist ideology (like Lenin stated-—give me four years with “your” children and he would own them for life) -—to make them all into “happy slaves” of the State-—irrational, emotional puerile adults who can’t use Reason and Logic.

Pretending that males and females are interchangeable (radical egalitarianism) destroys the basis of our Constitution and Natural Law Theory and our “Justice” System. It makes Vice and irrationality into Virtue and removes Reason from Just Law (unconstitutional).

It is all about base emotions determining Good and Evil...to destroy our Constitution and posit Stalin’s, so Natural Law Theory (Reason/Logic/Science/Truth/God) is removed and children become so irrational they believe “snow is black” (Fichte 1810—how to remove Free Will in children through the Prussian “education” system (which we adopted).

Can’t have Logic in our children...they might have Common Sense (understand Reality and Freedom) like a Thomas Paine or Thomas Jefferson or Sam Adams. Put them into the artificial institutions of dehumanization and demoralization (group “think”)-—and they will be like the Miley Cyruses and Beibers——purile narcissists like our CIC.

Individuality came only from Christianity-—all other cultures were collectives/socialists—which rots the Souls of children raised in such a tribal, puerile, immoral, ignorant culture where individuals are eliminated or killed if useless eaters. Reason/Truth/God’s Laws do not exist. Emotions rule reason. The Age of Reason was only possible with the Christian Worldview-—where dignity and worth applies to ALL human beings. Never perfect—but alway the most perfect and most free in history of mankind.

Cultural Marxists knew to collapse Western Civ. it was necessary to destroy Christianity and the Natural Family.

Crippling the minds of children (forcing them into one box) and controlling their Reality is essential for the “happy slave” worldview. Embed dependency and servatude and artificial environments (remove biological parents and real life interactions ( normalize TV reality) ), the understanding of the Worldview of our Founders becomes totally impossible. They are dehumanized and ignorant of Reality.

Only tribal minds will exist: simple minds unable to think abstractly and conceive of Adam Smith or John Locke philosophy. They will be happy slaves of the State-—like the peasants and serfs of thousands of years—ruled by the elite.

Since modern technology, it is now possible to control ALL minds (emotions): All people who allow the culture of Death to permeate their children’s Reality especially in the formative years. All computers/TV create artificial emotions and can be used to change attitudes and emotions in human beings (and will normalize evil).

Real Life interaction is essential to formation of worldview/emotions in children. Turn off the dehumanizing stuff...Amish had it correct in many ways. Evil people are formed by environment and many people leave the formation of the minds of their children to TV and strangers which is unnatural and evil: behaviors/emotions are learned and habituated and modeled and Reality has to mostly consist of a biological mother and father and extended family connections. Orphanages destroyed bonding and trust and created emotionally crippled adults—if they survived.

Attitudes are shaped by what children see and do and dehumanizing events ( using TV/Movies/Computers/phones) should be used sparingly and only for uplifting and Wisdom. Most time should be learning to interact with real human beings and controlling REAL emotions so social skills and maturity can be reached eventually. Practice and habits and attitudes have to be formed with interaction with HUMAN beings-—not through computers when is a removal from Reality to a certain extent (and some senses). The brain is designed to use all the senses-—otherwise there is a real warping of the senses/emotions.

Waldorf schools don’t allow TV and Computers for young children under 13 for the integration of both sides of the brain (brain/wisdom formation) which takes all the senses and human interactions and that with nature/reality-—not pressing buttons on screens which destroys the imagination because all the “work” of the mind is being done by the machine....no exercising of the brain and imagination since someone else is conforming the brain to their imagination and the real work is done.

Same with reading hard copies...which utilizes the sense of touch-—remove books with a screen and memories are affected-—the brain is not using all of its ability to memorize-—like with books where your brain will register weight, size and thickness, also. Reflection is so much greater with a hardcopy and the actual writing out and forming letters with a pen which utilizes much more brainpower—more work of the brain which is crucial to children and the development and mapping of their brain, and developing all the networks which increases intelligence.

Why do you think they want computers, etc. in Kindergarten. it is to control and truncate the brain (put it into a VERY small box)-—to create the proper attitudes by operant conditioning. It is all that computers do.-—treat children like Pavlov’s dog and worse-—total dehumanization-—removal from Reallity (Real People interactions/Truth/God).

Can you use computers for good and to instill Virtue and Wisdom. Certainly—but not at the expense of healthy human interactions. The public schools will use them only for evil. It is the nature of power and as JS Mill stated: if government controls schools, they will never educate; they will just make slaves for the State. This was KNOWN hundreds of years ago. But we pretend and live in this artificial world/utopia and have “faith” in government and Marx only. We keep “thinking” socialism will work when Solzhenitsyn told us in 78 that even a LITTLE bit will ROT the SOUL.


36 posted on 04/17/2015 10:24:35 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: wagglebee

A true Christian seeks to glorify God in all things, including through loving what God loves and detesting what God detests. God is not glorified in engaging in depravity or indifference to depravity. That’s why both “homosexual Christian” and “libertarian Christian” are oxymoronic.


37 posted on 04/17/2015 10:29:26 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: wagglebee
The GOP has abandoned EVERY conservative principle.

Then Conservatives should, in turn, ABANDON the GOP.

It's not hard to do.

38 posted on 04/17/2015 10:31:59 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: ansel12

It is why Libertarians are incredibly stupid.

As Socrates stated, Without Virtue, there is no Freedom.

Libertarians remove the Virtue of Justice (Queen of Virtue) from our “justice” system.

It is impossible to have a “Civil” society which does not agree on Good and Evil-—and it is impossible to have Just Law that promotes Vice and Evil-—as even Nuremberg Trials stated.

All human beings are Social and Political Animals-—they can’t be devoid of “actions” and a Civil Society can’t exist without Civil actions-—those which NEVER allow dehumanizing, degrading acts on others. IT is why Christianity is the only Ethics System in line with our Justice System—because using human beings as a “Means to an End” is NOT allowed with Individual Natural Rights from the Creator.

That is why Collectives are unconstitutional-—they can kill the useless eaters for the “Common Good” and that is why they are removing Right Reason (morality) from our Legal System-—which was done by Oliver Wendell Holmes, jr. to make our Constitution and Justice System into Stalin’s -—where we have Rule of Man....No Higher Laws allowed-—so Might makes Right (old pagan systems and Right Reason according to Natural Law (Logic and Reason) can be removed.

Removal of Just Law is to make us into “happy (drugged) slaves” of the state.


39 posted on 04/17/2015 10:34:06 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

Also, social liberalism and libertarian immigration, makes more democrat voters, which makes the conservative goals of small, limited government and low taxes, impossible.


40 posted on 04/17/2015 10:39:15 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarian social liberalism makes conservative small limited government & low taxes impossible.)
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