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Ben Affleck Pressured PBS to Edit Out Slave-Owning Grandfather in Ancestry Doc
Breitbart ^ | 2015-04-17 | Daniel Nussbaum

Posted on 04/17/2015 5:02:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: EternalVigilance

In the early decades after the American Revolution, as English-speaking settlers began to settle in southern Ontario, including some from the US, there was still slavery in Ontario. On a visit to Canada about 20 years ago I picked up a pamphlet about the topic which said there were cases of Canadian slaves escaping to freedom in the US (since slavery had been banned in the Northwest Territory).


81 posted on 04/17/2015 7:35:38 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: blueunicorn6
Nope, ET isn't "rich"; at least I don't think he is, from what I know about him.

We're all related to people who don't know that they are related to us and probably don't care. But it's a tenuous and distant relationship. The father one goes back, the more people we are somehow related to.

82 posted on 04/17/2015 7:35:43 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ladyjane

My grandfather was shot and killed during a bank robbery. My grandmother, sweet woman that she had, was Alvis Karpis friends.


83 posted on 04/17/2015 7:36:45 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Yes, during the colonial period, there was a lot of "triangular trade" which involved rum from New England being shipped to Africa to purchase slaves, who were taken to the West Indies where they were exchanged for sugar or molasses which was then taken to New England to be made into rum.

I think that was part of the reason why Jefferson's clause in the Declaration of Independence blaming the king for the slave trade was cut out, because the delegates from the North were conscious of their own involvement in the slave trade.

84 posted on 04/17/2015 7:39:01 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Yes.


85 posted on 04/17/2015 7:39:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Verginius Rufus
There's a VERY powerful song, from the musical 1776 the lyrics are at deals with the New England slave trade and list that route exactly.
86 posted on 04/17/2015 7:42:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Well, he’s no relative of mine, then.

How about you? Do you need any money-grubbing relatives? I’m really good at spending other people’s money. I can go through two, three million bucks a week. I’m a big tipper.


87 posted on 04/17/2015 7:42:48 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: nopardons

Ambrose Bierce has a definition of genealogy that goes somewhat like: “tracing your ancestry back to an ancestor who didn’t particularly care to trace his.”


88 posted on 04/17/2015 7:43:43 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: EternalVigilance

We’re probably distant cousins. I have Estes in my family tree also.


89 posted on 04/17/2015 7:46:14 PM PDT by BronzePencil (Liberty's in every blow! Let us do or die!)
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To: blueunicorn6

LOL.....don’t need any “new” relatives, greedy ones or not; so I must decline your inane offer.


90 posted on 04/17/2015 7:48:38 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Verginius Rufus

Oh I love Bierce, but was quite unfamiliar with that quote. Many thanks for posting it !


91 posted on 04/17/2015 7:49:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: BronzePencil

Probably.


92 posted on 04/17/2015 7:53:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: nopardons
It has been a while since I read Bierce, so I just tried Googling the quote. According to ThinkExist.com, it goes:

"GENEALOGY: n., An account of one's descent from an ancestor who did not particularly care to trace his own."

93 posted on 04/17/2015 7:54:09 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Didn't the shipping industry in Massachusetts thrive by being involved in the importing of slaves?

Way over emphasized by the neo-confederate propagandists.

Before the American Revolution was strictly in the hands of British owned slave ships. During the Revolution, the British ships obviously quit sailing to Massachusetts, and during that war, in 1780, Massachusetts and Pennsylvania banned the further importation of slaves into their states.

After the war ended American vessels began sailing to West Africa in the slave trade, mostly sailing from Newport RI. and New York. Their markets for those slaves were mostly in the Caribbean, South America, and the American South, specifically Charleston. By 1808, it was illegal for any American registered vessel to carry slaves in international commerce (obviously violated) but it was considered an act of piracy.

But the short answer is that the vast majority of slaves in the US came on British ships before the Revolution.

94 posted on 04/17/2015 7:54:18 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Verginius Rufus

It’s been decades since I’ve read any Bierce.
Thanks for the new info.


95 posted on 04/17/2015 7:56:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Verginius Rufus
Yes, during the colonial period, there was a lot of "triangular trade" which involved rum from New England being shipped to Africa to purchase slaves, who were taken to the West Indies where they were exchanged for sugar or molasses which was then taken to New England to be made into rum.

In New England, they were buying sugar and selling rum. The ships were British owned and operated.

96 posted on 04/17/2015 7:58:04 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

On one side of my family, my ancestor tribesmen owned slaves. On the other side of my family, Buffalo Soldiers attacked my ancestor tribesmen. My family has stopped owning slaves. It’s a good bet that the descents of Buffalo Soldiers are still attacking people.


97 posted on 04/17/2015 7:59:05 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: nopardons

“Inane offer”? Is that like a Final Offer? I can come down from the millions of bucks. Two or three hundred thousand bucks will get you a Fathers Day Card from me. Or, if I’m older than you, I could take you to Chuck-E-Cheese and we’ll fight the other families.


98 posted on 04/17/2015 8:00:50 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: nopardons
I bet you found lots of thieves, crooks, degenerates, and frauds.

I found William Brewester, the pastor of the Pilgrims that came over on the Mayflower. I found some of the very first settlers of Massachusetts, and Virginia, and North Carolina, and West Virginia, and Maryland, and Connecticut, and Pennsylvania, and New York, and Kentucky, and Tennessee, and Ohio, and Illinois, and Indiana, and Missouri, and Iowa, and Nebraska, and Colorado, and Oregon, and California.

I found men and women who fought the Indian Wars, and the Revolution, and the War of 1812, and the Civil War, and every other war this country ever fought.

If you want to call them names, that's your call.

But something tells me you're not qualified to be their judge.

99 posted on 04/17/2015 8:02:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Ditto

An accurate accounting of history.


100 posted on 04/17/2015 8:03:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Benjamin Franklin)
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