Posted on 04/18/2015 4:39:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
This should prove to be an interesting thread...
This article is an example of what is known as defining a problem away. The author sets up all his definitions so that his conclusions have to follow. For example, biased reporting is “capital”. LOL.
Does the "socially liberal" description include legalization of prostitution and drugs? Where in this simplistic description does foreign policy fit? Libertarians are non-interventionists.
blah blah blah. The fact is that eight percent more people call themselves democrats than republicans. We NEED to rock the independent vote in our favor or we will lose.
We also need to somehow win the hearts and minds of marginal democrats and explain how NO ONE wins in the end with an entitlement culture.
SS is the biggest scam ever. You can potentially invest six percent of your salary for 50 years and then die and receive nothing.
Most likely
The track record of the Libertarian Party is not encouraging. I’m really not sure that a lot of people want legal drugs and legal prostitution.
Libertarians tend to be fiscal conservatives (good) and social liberals (bad). Socially liberal ideas tend to cause enough difficulties in people’s lives that they start looking around for government charity to rescue them. That’s when fiscal conservatism goes out the window. Social liberalism is always “more important” than fiscal conservatism.
I will stay a Conservative. And I will vote for Ted Cruz.
12% - you forget the employer’s half.
Since I’m self employed I pay both halves.
Do you realize that many demonrats call themselves independent because they are ashamed to admit that they are liberals?
For starters, 85% of Americans think of abortion as a grim and horrific option — rape, incest, life-o-mother ONLY. Thus, one could say that 85% of Americans are social-conservatives.
Secondly, the ‘pot’ issue is getting slowly temporized. That’s the big driver in libertarians.
Thridly, most Americans don’t want to simply cut off this generation of poor Senior Citizens from SS, nor do they want those seniors to suffer much. That is being ‘socially liberal’.
Fourth — most Americans are getting fed up with government unions and teachers’ unions, an issue rarely addressed, and a drain on the federal budget as well as state budgets which raid just about everything to shore up government union pension plans.
Conclusion — these polls don’t reveal very much.
Employed persons do too. They just don't know it. Both halves come out of the employer's pocket and both halves are paid to obtain the employee's services. The only difference being two different descriptions on the paycheck.
Good point about legalized prostitution. Do we really want to raise our little girl to sleep their way up the corporate ladder when they grow up?
Don’t get me more depressed. I want to be optimistic but how do you overcome single white women, blacks, Hispanics, gays, Jews (we may get 40 percent support after the Obama debacle), the young and Asians. Are older white men and married white females enough? And how are we Not making the case to Jewish and Asian Americans that they have no place in the democratic party?
That's because the vast majority of Americans don't have a clue what a “libertarian” is...
“SS is the biggest scam ever.”
But this current generation can’t turn its back on the poor dependents of SS, can it? Touch that rail and you lose the White House. We need a multi-generational exit strategy with UN-taxed pension plans, and that requires a constitutional amendment. Before that, we need a better-educated voter base.
There's a world of difference between the "big-L" Libertarian Party and a "small-l" libertarian.
For example, most historians agree that Thomas Jefferson would properly be described as a libertarian -- that is a "classic liberal". But I'm quite sure he'd take issue with much of the Libertarian Party platform.
(Damned Liberals misappropriated the word. They're actually leftists, socialists, and communists. And nuts.)
Losertarians are fun to laugh at...
I agree 100 percent on a multi generational plan. What also needs to be addressed is that people are living a LOT longer than when SS was implemented. Private accounts are more in line with capitalism, and if not that then the retirement age must be lifted. It is a huge issue to tackle. Or we could decimate the ranks of federal employees and their ridiculous pensions. But like Pelosi said “there is no room left to cut” even though a recent report stated that HUGE numbers of federal employees dedicate their whole day to union activities.
So will I. Nothing wrong your choice, it's to early for me to decide, by December I should know though
Here is a list of the primaries for 2016
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I’ve always been for total disclosure on the pay stub.
When you ask most folks how much they make they’ll mention “take home”.
I think most folks would be surprised if the stub started out with “Net Worth to the Company this pay period” and then start through all the employer paid fees like Unemployment Insurance, etc, their half of SS and then running with what the people usually see.
Would open a few eyes.
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