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High court limits drug-sniffing dog searches during traffic stops
The Los Angeles Times ^ | April 21, 2015 | David G. Savage

Posted on 04/21/2015 10:46:54 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian

The Supreme Court told the police Tuesday they may not turn routine traffic stops into drug searches using trained dogs.

The 6-3 decision ends the increasingly common practice whereby officers stop a car for a traffic violation and then call for a drug-sniffing dog to inspect the vehicle.

The justices, both liberal and conservative, agreed that it was an unconstitutional "search and seizure" to hold a motorist in such cases.

"Police may not prolong detention of a car and driver beyond the time reasonably required to address the traffic violation," said Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, speaking for the court. [snip]

Ginsburg said police officers who stop a car for speeding or another traffic violation are justified in checking the motorist and his driver's license. But a traffic stop does not give officers the authority to conduct an "unrelated" investigation involving drugs, she said. [snip]

Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Antonin Scalia. Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan joined her opinion.[snip]

Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Anthony Kennedy dissented. They said the stop itself was legal, and it was reasonable to hold the motorist because the officer suspected they may be carrying drugs.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: fourthamendment; scotus; searchandseizure; warondrugs; wod
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Thomas, Alito and Kennedy are "law and order" conservatives; Roberts and Scalia take the Fourth Amendment as seriously as they take the rest of the Constitution.
1 posted on 04/21/2015 10:46:54 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian
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To: BuckeyeTexan

SCOTUS.


2 posted on 04/21/2015 10:47:53 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

This is good news. Many of these dogs are extremely “well-trained” tools used by the cops to turn traffic stops in to drug busts.


3 posted on 04/21/2015 10:48:48 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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Thomas, Alito and Kennedy are "law and order" conservatives

Even "law and order" conservatives should respect the Bill of Rights.

4 posted on 04/21/2015 10:50:16 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

They will ALL have dogs now.....................


5 posted on 04/21/2015 10:52:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: WayneS
"Many of these dogs are extremely “well-trained” tools used by the cops to turn traffic stops in to drug busts."

Many of these dogs will "alert" when they know the handler wants them to alert - a well attributed phenomenon the USSC ignored the last time they dealt with the issue of police drug dogs.

6 posted on 04/21/2015 10:54:47 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Yes. That is exactly what I meant by “well-trained”.


7 posted on 04/21/2015 10:55:47 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Roberts and Scalia take the Fourth Amendment as seriously as they take the rest of the Constitution.

Roberts, take the Constitution seriously? Sometimes.

8 posted on 04/21/2015 10:57:55 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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Ditto for Scalia - he's the one who wrote that interstate commerce encompasses acts that are neither interstate nor commerce.
9 posted on 04/21/2015 11:00:08 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: circlecity

I agree. I believe their was a case in AZ where the dog alerted and the cop put the driver thru a cavity search and turned up nothing.


10 posted on 04/21/2015 11:02:19 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

and it was reasonable to hold the motorist because the officer suspected they may be carrying drugs.


Isn’t that the “reasonable suspicion” argument?

It makes sense. I assumed what they were saying was that a cop can’t decide, simply because he has you, that you are going to be checked out by a dog. I’m confused.

I was stopped in Chicago last Thanksgiving eve at 11:30 pm on the last half hour of a drive from central KY. I had my metrosexual multipoo in the car and was surprising my wife who was with the grandkids. I was driving in a way that caused the cop to ask, “Why are you driving like a maniac.” I was also in my Scion FR-S.

Anyway, when they saw it was some 61 year old surprising his wife on thanksgiving and, truth be told, I wasn’t driving all that bad, they let me off with a warning - but not until the K-9 unit showed up to give me a good sniffing. He had been called before the cop even walked up to the car.

The only probable cause was the lateness of the hour, the driving and the car. That should not have been reasonable suspicion.


11 posted on 04/21/2015 11:05:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Holly Pardon. You will never believe the 100s of thousands that now go free. Conservatives knew all the time that it was a 4th amendment violation. Why can’t “law enforcement” follow the darn LAW!!?


12 posted on 04/21/2015 11:05:36 AM PDT by iowacornman (Speak out with courage!!)
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Suprising they just stopped at the cavity search.
13 posted on 04/21/2015 11:06:43 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Lurking Libertarian

No problem. They will just dawdle until the police dog and handler can get there.


14 posted on 04/21/2015 11:07:50 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Just so y’all know the local impact of Marijuana legalization:

The guy who sat across from me on the 6:00 A.M. train was going to work stoned out of his mind already.


15 posted on 04/21/2015 11:08:51 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I want the Halal butcher to cut up my pig. If he doesn't, I'm filing charges.)
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To: circlecity

True. Many more dogs will alert on command more often than they will alert on a sniff.


16 posted on 04/21/2015 11:08:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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Just so y’all know the local impact of Marijuana legalization:

The guy who sat across from me on the 6:00 A.M. train was going to work stoned out of his mind already.

How do you know he didn't do that even before legalization?

17 posted on 04/21/2015 11:10:07 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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The guy who sat across from me on the 6:00 A.M. train was going to work stoned out of his mind already.

Well, he wasn't driving.

18 posted on 04/21/2015 11:11:19 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: circlecity

My kids’ private school started using drug dogs last year. They practiced using them during the summer while my kids were in a theater camp. They alerted on my daughter’s bag and they emptied her bag. Without asking permission. She walked in and all of her stuff was out for all the kids to see. She was embarassed. I was pissed off. She keeps advil in her purse because she has focal dystonia and tendonitis.


19 posted on 04/21/2015 11:11:59 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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Many of these dogs will "alert" when they know the handler wants them to alert

This is absolutely true, and renders the entire argument moot.

These dogs merely give the cops an excuse to do whatever they want, which is trample our rights. Some of these dogs have a failure rate higher than 50% ! How is that even possible?

It is patently unconstitutional, and an example of the police state

20 posted on 04/21/2015 11:13:18 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (The time is now to form up into leaderless cells of 5 men or less.)
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