Posted on 04/23/2015 7:05:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
IRS Pushback Ping.
Except Cruz isn’t advocating that type of tax system.
If you eliminated corporate and individual income tax, and also all the programs for corporate and individual welfare tied to taxation, you could eliminate the “department” called the IRS, and disburse some of the workers to other departments.
But there is no realistic way anybody, even winning both the presidency and a majority of seats in both houses of congress, would achieve that type of change in an 8-year period of time. It might not even be desirable to do so, as the disruption to 10s of millions of honest citizens who have structured their lives around the current tax code would suggest providing a phase-in period, to be fair.
What we need is an IRS properly focused on their job, and not one that is attacking citizens for their political views.
If the government can print money, why do they need to tax us?
You can reduce a lot of the complexity by eliminating deductions, but in the end, you'll still have to give up your 4th and 5th amendment rights to file the forms.
The real solution is to pass a constitutional amendment that does 2 things...
Why set the rate in the amendment itself? So it can't be easily changed.
Why 10%? Because God only asks for 10. The government isn't worthy of more support than the Lord.
“””If the government can print money, why do they need to tax us?”””
They want control of you and everybody else.
But that does not solve the problem of the parasites sucking off the govey teat! Every person in this country needs to have skin in the game. No give backs, and no free rides. A minimum tax of at least 3-5,000$ should be paid in by each person who is of a tax-eligible age. Maybe age 21 or older, etc. That way, youngsters who graduated from high school get a 3-year hiatus or start before needing to pay into the system.
And that my friend, is where the IRS still comes into the picture.
Exactly!
How disappointing. I used to enjoy National Review.
“The people directly elect Senators, and they aren’t going to feel the consequences immediately, and it’ll be very indirectly once they do.”
Indirectly? Do you think the people of Detroit felt the consequences of their city’s bankruptcy only indirectly?
“(How many people see the issues with the Federal budget as it is now, and vote accordingly?) “
Well that doesn’t impact them, as the feds stall bankruptcy with currency manipulation, at least for now. If the states can’t pay, they have no similar mechanism to forestall things, the effects would be felt very quickly by the citizens as states default, their credit ratings tank, and the state has to cut services.
Yes, I agree the 17th should be repealed, but even without that, if the states have to foot the bill for the federal budget directly, it would have swift consequences.
Thanks for the ping, TADSLOS.
Senator Cruz has a major problem in that ALL income tax schemes, whether “progressive” or “flat,” will require an abusive and intrusive IRS to intimidate taxpayers and ensure the tax is collected.
He needs to drop whatever income tax “scheme” he currently fancies and go all in for the FairTax! The FairTax is about FReedom, and if Senator Cruz is about FReedom, he cannot support ANY other tax scheme!
A National Retail Sales Tax (FairTax) will NOT require an IRS. It will require state sales tax collection agencies to ensure that retail businesses collect the sales tax and remit it to the government.
Under the FairTax, the IRS will be abolished! It will be replaced by an agency which will monitor and audit each of the state taxing agencies charged with collecting the sales tax.
Bottom line: Under the FairTax, no individual American will have to undergo an audit ever again. NEVER!
Audits will be conducted, to be sure, but on businesses rather than individuals. And by state sales tax collection agencies, not Federal.
We will never again be a FRee people so long as we have an income tax and an IRS!
Find out how you can help us replace the income tax with the FairTax and abolish the IRS at http://www.fairtax.org.
Not only should the IRS be abolished, IT MUST BE ABOLISHED!
America cannot and will not continue as a Republic if income tax is not replaced by the FairTax and the IRS is not abolished!
So long as America has an income tax and an IRS, Americans are slaves!
How much longer are you willing to be a slave?
I take abolishing the IRS to mean ending the current tax code and replacing all with a simple collection agency. If we had only a sales tax, we really would only need a receipts department.
Patrick Brennan is the opinion editor at National Review.
“But that does not solve the problem of the parasites sucking off the govey teat!”
Eh, I’m not too worried about that. Even they seem to have disposable income to buy cigarettes, beer, sneakers, etc., and they would then be paying federal tax on all such items.
“Not only should the IRS be abolished, IT MUST BE ABOLISHED!
America cannot and will not continue as a Republic if income tax is not replaced by the FairTax and the IRS is not abolished!
So long as America has an income tax and an IRS, Americans are slaves!”
How much longer are you willing to be a slave?”
Well said Taxman! And SO very true!
At best, the IRS will be abolished, and a new, Constitutionally proper method of collecting revenue will be established.
At worst, the IRS is forced to move into a small office in a strip-mall, as it no longer needs the former tax-enforcement infrastructure.
Either way, the IRS will no longer be a fear among American people.
Cruz or lose
Thanks, Bigun. America needs to wake up!
LIEberals are intent on taking America down; reducing America to a third world banana republic run by LIEberal despots. The income tax and the IRS are but two of many measures they are using to accomplish their nefarious mission.
When we replace the income tax with the FairTax and abolish the IRS, we will open the floodgates of FReedom!
Americans will be FRee to work, earn, save and invest without the heavy hand of government intruding into every facet of their economic life.
Economic FReedom will beget other FReedoms — use your imagination!
On January 11, 1989, Ronald Reagan gave his farewell address to the nation:
“I’ve spoken of the shining city all my political life…. And how stands the city on this winter night? … After 200 years, two centuries, she still stands strong and true to the granite ridge, and her glow has held no matter what storm. And she’s still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home.”
FairTax gets America back on track!
There is withholding on all employees both full and part-time. Then there are all the rules on who is an official “employee”. Add to this, determining just exactly what is “income” and there will be thousands of pages of rules on that.
Then add to this the mischief that politicians can do to all those regulations.
Once people wade through all the regulations getting to that magic number of “income” then they can multiply it by a number. By the way, aren't we doing that now?
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