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Scott Walker and The Very Strange Moment for GOP politics and policy [political earthquake]
Washington Post ^ | April 23, 2015 | Daniel W. Drezner, professor at Tuffs, Brookings Inst. fellow

Posted on 04/23/2015 7:59:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

There was a small political earthquake Wednesday on the right side of the political spectrum, as Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), who has had some nice things said about him by some very rich people, said something on immigration that likely displeased those same people. On Glenn Beck’s radio show, Walker said the following:

>>>In terms of legal immigration, how we need to approach that going forward is saying: the next president and the next Congress need to make decisions about a legal immigration system that’s based on, first and foremost, protecting American workers and American wages, because the more I’ve talked to folks, I’ve talked to Senator [Jeff] Sessions and others out there, but it is a fundamentally lost issue by many in elected positions today, is what is this doing for American workers looking for jobs, what is this doing to wages, and we need to have that be at the forefront of our discussion going forward.<<<

Now this has prompted something of a pundit civil war on the right, with Philip Klein, Ben Domenech, Matt K. Lewis and The Washington Post’s own Jennifer Rubin blasting Walker — and Ramesh Ponnuru, Matthew Boyle, Rich Lowry and Ross Douthat defending Walker.

Policy-wise, I have a dog in this fight, and that dog is very much in favor of expanding legal immigration. In part, this is because doing so is a really nifty way of reducing illegal immigration, and because I’m a big fan of the United States not becoming a demographic disaster going forward. Douthat provides the most cogent defense of Walker’s position, and even he acknowledges that, “the strictly economic data doesn’t prove [Walker or] Jeff Sessions’ case in a definitive way.”....

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corporatewelfare; economy; h1b; immigration; jobs; paultardation; paultardnoisemachine; randpaulnoisemachine; randsconcerntrolls; walker
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1 posted on 04/23/2015 7:59:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I want a nitwit Mexican PhD to get this nitwit guy’s job, and see how much he really cares about “demographics”—


2 posted on 04/23/2015 8:05:47 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Talking heads scrambling to keep up with Scott Walker. “What does it all mean?” “What will happen next?”

What it means is that a man of substance, conviction and courage is LEADING. Pundits and advisers are befuddled. They haven't seen the likes of SW in a long time.

OK immigration purist windbags...start huffing and puffing.

3 posted on 04/23/2015 8:07:51 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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Scott Walker: Mobilizing Resentment [angry white voters]

"...................Recently, The New York Times contrasted the campaign strategies of Jeb Bush and Scott Walker. Both are conservative, but Bush has an inclusive message: "He is telling Republicans, in effect, that they must accept a changing country: that the path to the presidency will be found through appealing to voters who may not look like them." On the other hand, Scott Walker has an adversarial message: "The Party's way forward" lies in demonstrating toughness in the face of intense opposition from the left and mobilizing those who are already inclined to support conservatism."

In the 2012 presidential contest, Barack Obama defeated Mitt Romney with 51 percent of the vote. Obama carried women and racial minorities; Romney carried men and white voters. Most tellingly, Romney carried white women.

Scott Walker's 2016 strategy is simple: He will seek to defeat Hillary Clinton by mobilizing the resentment of working-class white voters, male and female. Walker will take his adversarial message to swing states such as Colorado, Florida, Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Ohio, Virginia, and Wisconsin; and hope to mobilize a massive turnout by angry white voters. Walker is dangerous."

4 posted on 04/23/2015 8:12:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

WaPo leftist “pundit” who works for the enemy. Ignore him.


5 posted on 04/23/2015 8:17:11 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“I have a dog in this fight, and that dog is very much in favor of expanding legal immigration. In part, this is because doing so is a really nifty way of reducing illegal immigration...”

Basically, amnesty by another name.


6 posted on 04/23/2015 8:19:05 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Awgie

“OK immigration purist windbags”

As if being an immigration purist is a bad thing...


7 posted on 04/23/2015 8:20:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s real easy to be for open borders when you’ve got tenure.


8 posted on 04/23/2015 8:26:49 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who is arguing against Walker’s statement?

He explained the whole thing on HANNITY, and even Sean didn’t run screaming from the set. And neither did we.

Attending to the obvious US job losses for citizens who are being replaced by this damndable Chamber of Commerce movement bringing in these low wage earners, who pay no taxes and ship their income home, is a no-brainer that every Republican candidate will have to answer for.

I have no doubt that Cruz has a brain and will be attending the immediate problem the very same way. Who wouldn’t?


9 posted on 04/23/2015 8:27:05 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: circlecity

Walker, I thought, already said that the Border is a no-brainer and must be closed. He is talking about the rules of the road for the future.

What I want to know is would somebody tell me what exactly, is wrong with the US immigration rules and policy already in place, and that have been for ions of time??

Nobody says simply, “enforce the laws on the books”.

Where is that damn book? I wanna see what’s in it.


10 posted on 04/23/2015 8:31:48 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

Actually not one book....

The following link will give links to some of the various immigration laws/rules/codes/regulations, etc

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/immigration


11 posted on 04/23/2015 8:40:38 AM PDT by deport
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He will seek to defeat Hillary Clinton by mobilizing the resentment of working-class white voters, male and female. Walker will take his adversarial message to swing states such as Colorado, Florida, Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Ohio, Virginia, and Wisconsin; and hope to mobilize a massive turnout by angry white voters.

And this is a no-brainer. Taking a stance against the current illegal immigration is a win-win for Walker. Americans want it, democrats won't touch it.

The recent thread of a pole shows 70% Americans are fed up: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3281906/posts

12 posted on 04/23/2015 8:44:21 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: deport

Thx, deport. I will take a look at your link there.


13 posted on 04/23/2015 8:45:53 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I live in Vegas, home to 100s of thousands of illegals. It isn’t just jobs, there is a huge burden on the schools, infrastructure and crime. Yes, crime, they aren’t cherubs crossing the border.


14 posted on 04/23/2015 8:47:22 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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If we started outsourcing Professor Do-Nothing’s, immigration talk would end.


15 posted on 04/23/2015 8:47:23 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: deport

OMGosh! No wonder “the Book(’s)” is a political macaroni salad, isn’t it— a real political pig skin, for sure! Thank you, deport!


16 posted on 04/23/2015 8:50:53 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Scott Walker's 2016 strategy is simple: He will seek to defeat Hillary Clinton by mobilizing the resentment of working-class white voters, male and female. Walker will take his adversarial message to swing states such as Colorado, Florida, Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Ohio, Virginia, and Wisconsin; and hope to mobilize a massive turnout by angry white voters. Walker is dangerous."

That's a good strategy! Whites broke overwhelmingly for the GOP in 2014, which was the source of the sweeping gains the party made.

Continually harping on Chelsea's $25 Million apartment, her father-in-law: who is a convicted felon, former Democratic Congressman, and rich banker, Hillary and Bill's status as 1%ers, all their wealth coming in the form of legal bribes for speaking fees and such -- those are all great class warfare talking points I'm using with tard acquaintances.

I believe We can be effective in either switching their votes to the GOP, or getting them to abstain or vote Green.

I really hope the Green Party has a great candidate this year! Go Greens! Bernie Sanders for Green Candidate!

17 posted on 04/23/2015 8:51:59 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Walker’s comments are certainly causing some heartburn among the open-borders, give-our-country-away crowd.

Kudos to Walker for speaking out on this. I hope he continues to do so and I hope he is as sincere on this as Sessions is.


18 posted on 04/23/2015 8:52:59 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: RitaOK

>>Who is arguing against Walker’s statement?<<

Both the Left and the Right are taking issue with it. There are many on the right who want more legal immigration for economic reasons. They view Walker’s statement as a threat to legal immigration, which it really isn’t. He just calls for considering American wages to be weighed when deciding both the number and the skill set of the legal immigrants that should be allowed each year. Interestingly, taking this tack requires assuming that illegal immigration will be ended; the conversation makes no sense otherwise. So, Walker, in one fell swoop, has refocused the conversation on legal immigration levels and American wages, with the tacit assumption being that illegal immigration must be ended. (I believe Canada, for instance, does exactly what he’s advocating...tried getting into Canada with a DUI on your record lately?...they do police their border.)

The left argues differently, and with a forked tongue as usual, when they claim that Walker is anti-immigrant with his new stance, practically claiming that he’s disgracing the Statue of Liberty, when of course their position is based primarily on bringing more voters in, rather than protecting American wages. They must realize that advocating for more immigrants directly conflicts with the goal of raising the wages of American employees, and they’re no doubt afraid that Walker has just painted them into a very tight corner where they might actually be forced to choose between higher American wages or more potential voters.

This was a risky move on Walker’s part, as illustrated by the squeals from the Right, but I think it will turn out to be a very good one, and one that will change the conversation on the Right, while putting the Left very much on the spot.


19 posted on 04/23/2015 8:53:42 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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20 posted on 04/23/2015 8:55:04 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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