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Ted Cruz knocks Scott Walker on immigration
Washington Examiner ^ | 4/24/2015 | Drucker

Posted on 04/24/2015 4:12:26 PM PDT by VinL

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To: DoughtyOne
I’ve given you the link to where Walker states that illegal can pay a fine and stay. Go lie to someone who doesn’t know the score here.

It is not his current position. He has changed his position for the better. You call it lying, I call it making a better, more informed judgment. Ronald Reagan was a Democrat at one time.

You state that Walker will watch legal immigration so it won’t affect U. S. Workers, and yet it would take 25 years for the total of legal immigration to equal the amnesty is is willing to grant.

He wants to send the illegals home. And Cruz not only wants to legalize the 12 to 20 million, he wants to increase the guest worker programs fivefold from the current 640,000 a year.

Walker’s policy hasn’t change since 2006. You’re delusional.

He has changed and we have him on record saying so in Iowa.

You are either delusional, or simply playing a propagandist’s game.

You don't care about Walker's position on anything. If you are against amnesty, how can you support Cruz or Rubio or Bush or Paul? You have directed your animus and vitriol towards Walker because you consider him to be a liar. That's the essence of your comments, not amnesty.

481 posted on 04/29/2015 9:49:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
My guess is that both Cruz and Rubio will most likely give different messages to Spanish audiences than English.HOw either will eventually rule is probably unknown.
Proving my point once again that we have no 100% candidates.
However if I had to pick between Cruz and
Rubio, Cruz stands taller, IMHO.
Your stats are always the best bud thanks.
482 posted on 04/29/2015 9:52:31 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: kabar

You are either exceptionally slow, or you are lying.

You trot out his comment in Iowa, where he says he has changed.

I don’t have to go any farther than the same interview I’ve linked you too numerous times, to hear him say he has changed.

In that interview he states he has changed. The brutal fact you can’t avoid, is in that same interview he says illegals paying a fine can remain in the U. S.

Is English your second language or what?

You focus on his claim he has changed, and won’t even listen to the man as he tells you he will allow them to stay, even though he says he has changed.

He hasn’t changed.

God you folks are slow.

“Oh in Iowa he said he had changed, and I believe him.”

Hell, he said the same thing in the interview.

You folks are either nuts or seeking to game Conservatives for the benefit of the GOPe.


483 posted on 04/29/2015 9:56:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne
You folks are either nuts or seeking to game Conservatives for the benefit of the GOPe.

"I'll take Game Conservatives for the benefit of the GOPe, Alex".

484 posted on 04/29/2015 9:59:41 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: DoughtyOne
I gave you a link from April 24, 2015, Pressed by Young Republicans, Scott Walker Sticks to Tough Immigration Stance. You can't handle the truth.

Kabar, you moron

The name calling and personal attacks are beneath you. Let's take the high road and talk about substance. And stop repeating yourself resending the same response again and again. I get it. We just have a disagreement about Walker. I find Walker's position on legal immigration to be a watershed moment. It will anger the GOPe and the corporate class. But it is courageous.

I helped Dave Brat defeat Cantor. Brat was among the first to link legal immigration and American jobs and workers. It is a winning position that has and will resonate with the American people.

485 posted on 04/29/2015 10:01:00 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

You are a fool.

He sticks to that line in the interview I linked you to. And you fall for it hook line and sinker.

“Ooh, I’ve changed my policy! Okay, if illegals pay a fine, should they be able to stay in the U. S.? Well yes, I believe we could find a way.”

And now when he continues to say he has changed, you actually believe him.

But of course that’s being charitable. The sad truth is, you’re just lying.

Do you realize John McCain to this day still says he wasn’t offering an amnesty? And Walker says his immigration policy has changed.

LOL, peas in pod...


486 posted on 04/29/2015 10:09:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: kabar

This is Scott Walker in his own words...

Immigration is discussed starting at 9:20 and the “...a way can be found...” is located at 10:20

In this one interview:

Walker documents his own policy history
Walker confirms he still believes in fine and stay in place
Walker claims to have changed his policy because of...
Walker just plain lies his ass off

Now his followers lie theirs off too.

At 3:10 Scott discusses whether Obama loves the United States or not. In this discussion he agrees that anyone who seeks public office has to love this country, so Obama must love this county.

Do we have any Conservatives at all here who think Obama loves this country?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uymMeeRV1RU


487 posted on 04/29/2015 10:13:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne

LOL. You are just a Johnny one note. As I said, you really don’t care about the issue of amnesty. You don’t like Walker period.


488 posted on 04/29/2015 10:21:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: DoughtyOne
Both allow the illegals to stay.

Cruz doesn’t lie about it.

If they're both going to screw me over, I give the nod to the one who at least has the decency to act ashamed of it.

489 posted on 04/29/2015 10:25:20 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: kabar

I don’t like a liar you dumb ass.

What part of that do you not grasp?

His policy hasn’t changed, and I proved it with Walker’s own interview.

You’re a shill for the GOPe.

If Walker lies to Conservatives about this, why would he stop lying here?

You’re claims are ripped to shreds, so you have to move off topic to rescue your candidate.

Good luck with that.


490 posted on 04/29/2015 10:26:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: ConservingFreedom
...who at least has the decency to ACT ashamed of it.

LOL. At least you recognize the man for what he is, a liar.

If he'll lie to you about his, what stops him from lying to you again and again? That is the action of a Democrat, even a GOPe operative. It isn't the act of a Conservative, because Conservatives don't have to lie.

491 posted on 04/29/2015 10:29:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: NorthMountain

Walker looks best now, maybe other candidates will come around now.

I’m a one issue voter so I’m pretty fickle.


492 posted on 04/29/2015 10:35:16 AM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: DoughtyOne
His policy hasn’t changed, and I proved it with Walker’s own interview

You proved nothing. Walker has stated his position before a GOP audience in Iowa, which is after his interview.

You’re a shill for the GOPe.

One of the dumbest statements ever made on this website. Why would I be touting Walker's position to reduce legal immigration and tying immigration to American jobs? It is the GOPe that supports more foreign workers and amnesty. I support neither. In fact, your attacks on Walker are exactly the position of the GOPe and the Chamber of Commerce. Look who is going after Walker for his position on legal immigration.

If anything, you are the shill for the GOPe and the corporate elites. You support candidates who want to import more foreign labor. You seem to have no problem in supporting candidates who want amnesty, however they try to disguise it.

You are projecting your own views on me. You are the shill trying to destroy one of the most conservative candidates that could get the nomination.

493 posted on 04/29/2015 10:50:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

To come here and pull what you are, you are either a liar, an idiot, or a paid shill.

McCain claimed it wasn’t an amnesty. Walker claims his policy changed, when it clearly hasn’t.

This is Scott Walker in his own words as of March 1, 2015.

Immigration is discussed starting at 9:20 and the “...a way can be found...” is located at 10:20

In this one interview:

Walker documents his own policy history
Walker confirms he still believes in fine and stay in place
Walker claims to have changed his policy because of...
Walker just plain lies his ass off

Now his followers lie theirs off too.

At 3:10 Scott discusses whether Obama loves the United States or not. In this discussion he agrees that anyone who seeks public office has to love this country, so Obama must love this county.

Do we have any Conservatives at all here who think Obama loves this country?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uymMeeRV1RU


494 posted on 04/29/2015 11:02:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne

I had it with your childishness. Blow it out your a$$.


495 posted on 04/29/2015 11:07:47 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Once again, the Walker effort is revealed for what it is on this forum.

Thanks so much.


496 posted on 04/29/2015 11:10:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: TADSLOS

I think you’d be a big winner there.


497 posted on 04/29/2015 11:16:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne
Being honest about it doesn't make selling me out to foreigners a conservative act.
498 posted on 04/29/2015 12:18:22 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Blah blah blah...

However it doesn’t bother you at all that Walker supports illegals paying a fine and remaining in country.

We have upwardz of 30 million illegals in country today, and it would take 25 years of legal and refugee immigration to match the number of people he agrees can stay.

Get back to me in 25 years.


499 posted on 05/01/2015 2:56:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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