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To: ansel12

“The vote is what makes modern leftism possible.”

What drives the vote? Lies.

“What gives the left the votes? Immigration does.”

Voters who believe the lies that they have been told, pretty much the same thing that gives the GOP votes.

“That is all there is to it, without the votes the radical left dies, and the democrat party would have to start moving right again to win votes.”

The radical left is never going to die, ansel. They have been around since the dawn of time and in every civilization. What drives them is the desire to control others, and that is a very common human desire.

The reason conservatives are losing to the left is because they have become complacent, and they have been complacent for a long, long time all the while the left fights all day, every day for total control, and even when they have it, they won’t rest.

That is their nature.

What will kill the left is truth. You know the left exists in countries that do not have votes, and they exist by way of the lie, the same way they exist here.

If conservatives gave voters, including immigrants, reasons to vote for them, then I bet they would get more votes, but conservatives are mostly silent as far as I can see, and the GOP isn’t conservative at all.


288 posted on 04/24/2015 8:54:12 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: chris37

I know that you are often defending abortion, and now you are defending immigration, and using the same inability to reason and see the facts.

You do not seem to understand that immigration is what gives the democrat party the votes to run the nation, the pre immigration Americans vote against the democrats.

Do you think the left would have passed the 1965 Immigration act and fought for immigration for 50 years, if they voted republican?

Do you ever look at the data of who votes how, and who makes up the two different parties?

Why do you think the left knows that as immigration delivers them state after state, that in time it will get all of the states?


295 posted on 04/24/2015 9:04:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: chris37
If conservatives gave voters, including immigrants, reasons to vote for them, then I bet they would get more votes, but conservatives are mostly silent as far as I can see, and the GOP isn’t conservative at all.

It is not the lack of a message that results in immigrants and minorities supporting the Dems, the party of Big Government. What exactly should be the message of the Reps that will sway immigrants and minorities to vote GOP? Please articulate it.

327 posted on 04/25/2015 7:30:37 AM PDT by kabar
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