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To: DirtyPigpen; rktman
If you don’t feel comfortable with one in the chamber you may not need to be carrying. Or need more training. When it goes down you won’t have the time or muscle memory to chamber a round if needed.

I respectfully disagree, and let me explain why. There are many people, particularly newer shooters, that are not comfortable with carrying one-up. Do they have a modern firearm that can safely carry Condition One? Yes. Do they need more training? Yes (and most people do anyway). Does Carrying Condition Three mean that they would require an extra second to chamber a round, and that in some circumstances they may not have that second (or use of both hands) to rack the gun? Yes.

However, and this is where my disagreement with your post comes in, that doesn't mean they should not carry.

By the way that is a statement I have often seen in several gun forums, and a statement that is wrong. Just because some do not carry Condition One does not mean they shouldn't carry, doesn't mean they have a hammer or chunk of metal only fit to be thrown, etc etc. What it means is that they have a gun that will require an extra second to put into battery, and in the vast majority of cases they will have the opportunity to do so. Most self defense cases with firearms are not Trayvon/Zimmerman situations where one gets jumped and pummeled.

In fact in one of those forums someone put an interesting bunch of statistics contrasting armed people who had died simply due to being attacked and NOT having the time to get into Condition One, versus people who had died due to negligent/accidental discharges. One quest on which group had an overwhelming number of people!

Anyway, I carry Condition One in a Glock 19. My choice, but that was after some time of carrying Condition Three until I was comfortable that triggers don't pull themselves. Until I was comfortable, and there are many people who are not comfortable yet doing so, but would still be a huge asset in, say, a mass shooting. It would be wrong for those people to be told to leave their firearms at home because they are not willing to carry one-up.

158 posted on 04/26/2015 6:30:54 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

One quest = One guess.


159 posted on 04/26/2015 6:32:59 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

I agree with you, for the most part. I guess having carried guns for so long has me a touch jaded.
I really do encourage anyone able to lawfully carry a firearm, no matter weapon condition. In time most folks, after becoming accustomed and proficient, would most likely decide to carry hot.
And deep down I think my comment was partially intended to provoke those less skilled to up their training schedule and therefore their proficiency.


168 posted on 04/26/2015 6:58:52 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: spetznaz

“Most self defense cases with firearms are not Trayvon/Zimmerman situations where one gets jumped and pummeled”

Even that case gave him wonderful opportunities to chamber a round when he exited the car, saw a suspicious person, etc.
He was engaged with the scary guy several minutes before that fist fight.


178 posted on 04/26/2015 8:14:26 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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