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Christians are leaving the faith in droves and the trend isn't slowing down
Yahoo ^ | April 28, 2015 | Matthew Speiser

Posted on 04/28/2015 2:22:57 PM PDT by detective

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To: Joe Boucher

“Morals” alone can never save anyone.


81 posted on 04/29/2015 7:54:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

correct,
But when whole church’s refuse to take a stand and teach morals but turn their heads for the lucre’.


82 posted on 04/29/2015 8:38:02 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: NorthstarMom

No. Was it good?


83 posted on 04/29/2015 9:44:24 AM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: iowamark

It’s been a few years since I watched it, but I remember thinking every Christian should watch it then read how throughout the Old Testament God tells his people to be fruitful and multiply;even when in captivity.

It is not a Christian perspective as the producer is not religious. He even laments that only the ultra religious are having large families. He sees the demographic trends and they aren’t pretty. It was fascinating to watch as it is so radically different from the conventional wisdom regarding economics, society, etc.

It was free online and I believe it still is.

Demography is destiny indeed.


84 posted on 04/29/2015 9:52:50 AM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: easternsky

Eggs Ackley! And that’s another indication that the Rapture must be getting close now, because the delusion due to deception is growing so fast, reaching toward that abomination known as chrislam. The warrenesque deception is amazing to behold! But it just means the snatching away, the harpazo, the rapturo is drawing closer.


85 posted on 04/29/2015 10:00:44 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: BenLurkin

The ‘chloros’ horse is rising boldly.


86 posted on 04/29/2015 10:02:45 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: detective

Consider the source.


87 posted on 04/29/2015 10:43:39 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Agamemnon

Everything you have said is wrong.

I posted the article because people should be aware of what is being written about Christians. I said that before but you did not understand so I will repeat it again for you.

I was hoping it would generate intelligent responses. It did. There were over 80 responses so far. Most of them were honest reflections on what is going on today.

It also provoked one weird personal attack, yours.

I tried patiently and politely to explain why your attack was inaccurate and that I disagreed with your assumptions.

You came back with a weird, incoherent personal attack saying that I have no balls. You are so brave from behind your computer.

I have tried to speak to you intelligently, it did not work.


88 posted on 04/29/2015 12:15:51 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective

Considering how hard it is to know if your own kids, parents and friends are Christians based on years of actual relationship, I put zero trust or concern in such a poll.


89 posted on 04/29/2015 12:18:57 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (God is very intollerant, why shouldn't I be?)
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To: detective

And just maybe, all the Christians are becoming gay? /s


90 posted on 04/29/2015 12:38:46 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: detective
I posted the article because people should be aware of what is being written about Christians.

No, you posted a liberalism saturated article, and did so uncritically, because you believe the premise of liberalism saturated article -- and it was your intent to drive the discussion toward suckering others into validating that same premise in your own mind.

I didn't let you.

I called you out on it.

And it's as simple as that.

You failed to make any cogent critique of the premise of the article, and all your excusatory, defensive commentary aside, what you have really shown yourself to be has been little more than an exhibitionist mouthpiece for liberalism.

And that's all.

91 posted on 04/29/2015 4:18:43 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Agamemnon

Comon brah. Don’t shoot the messenger. It’s okay to reveal what the enemy posts, and still not be a leftist.


92 posted on 04/29/2015 4:24:05 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Jeb Bush makes John McCain look like Barry Goldwater.)
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To: Agamemnon

“you believe the premise of liberalism saturated article”

Don’t make up lies about what I believe. Your posts are dishonest and delusional.

Grow up.


93 posted on 04/30/2015 11:13:27 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective
Don’t make up lies about what I believe.

You have had multiple chances to do so and yet you still play it coy.

Your posts are dishonest...

And now you are merely projecting. You sought validation for your own defeatism and you did not get it from me.

Maybe you are naturally inclined toward failure. I am not.

It appears that it is you who need to become better informed. Hopefully someday by being so you may become one who manifests a more mature perspective than you do now.

If you give an uncritical voice to liberal dreck, you become their pied piper of defeatism.

And I will oppose you.

Get used to it.

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94 posted on 05/02/2015 8:07:45 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Lazamataz
Don’t shoot the messenger. It’s okay to reveal what the enemy posts, and still not be a leftist.

There is a difference between an instructive messenger and a burrowing worm of defeatism.

I didn't call him a leftist. He calls himself a conservative.

At this point just call me surprised that he calls himself conservative, and I won't be surprised if I find out later that he is in reality nothing more than a dissembling leftist.

FReegards!

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95 posted on 05/02/2015 8:16:29 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Agamemnon

You have made several dishonest personal attacks on me. You have made up lies about me. And you pretend to be a Christian.

The article in question describes a Pew study that is 247 pages. There is a link to download the study. If you want to read the study and then find its flaws and criticize it go ahead. But from your posts I doubt you could read and comprehend 2 pages much less 247.

I personally have downloaded it and I am reading it. Much of the study is flawed. Its predictions are often guesswork. It is biased against Christians.

But I am wasting my time trying to speak intelligently to you.

All you can do is make up lies about people. So if you want to make up more lies about me go ahead. It probably makes you feel good about yourself.


96 posted on 05/04/2015 12:01:50 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective
I personally have downloaded it and I am reading it. Much of the study is flawed. Its predictions are often guesswork...

Always pays to do your homework before you post, doesn't it?

Would have saved you a lot of thrashing and misplaced name calling, as well as all the personal embarrassment you have sustained while insisting on making excuses for yourself.

Had you done your homework, one hopes that what appears to be your natural inclination toward trepidation would likely have been somewhat better tempered.

"Study to show thyself approved unto God ..." (II Tim. 2:15) is applicable to one's day-to-day research every bit as much as it is relevant for the study of Scripture.

Take this opportunity to learn to do your research before you post.

You'll be happier for it.

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97 posted on 05/04/2015 4:16:05 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Agamemnon
As I said in the beginning, I disagree with your assumption that people can not read an article and make up their own mind.

However, you are entitled to your opinion and there is probably some value added in including analyses with the post.

But why did you have to call me:

“pied piper of defeatism”

“nothing more than a dissembling leftist.”

“an exhibitionist mouthpiece for liberalism”

Why did you say:

“you accepted what the liberal article said hook, line, and sinker, giving a platform to the lie, and now you are hiding behind the skirts of the author.”

“you believe the premise of liberalism saturated article — and it was your intent to drive the discussion toward suckering others into validating that same premise in your own mind.”

You also said I had no balls.

Every time I tried to explain my position I was falsely accused. If, in my frustration, I said anything inappropriate I apologize.

98 posted on 05/04/2015 4:56:42 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective
Why did you say:....

Because you appear to be a low-information Christian by choice.

If, in my frustration, I said anything inappropriate I apologize.

If you do your research before you post, it is likely that you will have nothing to apologize for.

FReegards!

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99 posted on 05/06/2015 5:08:28 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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