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Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document says
Washington Post ^ | April 29 2015 | Peter Hermann

Posted on 04/29/2015 7:31:43 PM PDT by FreeReign

BALTIMORE — A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to a police document obtained by The Washington Post.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: baltimore; blackkk; donate; elijahcummings; freepmuch; justiceforfreddie; maryland
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To: FreeReign

He was absolutely successful


21 posted on 04/29/2015 7:50:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: House Atreides

perpulation


22 posted on 04/29/2015 7:50:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: Leaning Right

I was in a few paddy wagons in my teens for various drinking charges, I no longer drink btw, but there was no seat belts in them...that was a lot of years ago, apparently they do now?

I remember on 2 occasions about a dozen guys being loaded in from the jail to go to court ,and there was no seat belts


23 posted on 04/29/2015 7:51:31 PM PDT by Chauncey Uppercrust (TIME TO ROUND THE LITTLE BUGGERS UP (LGBT))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes!


24 posted on 04/29/2015 7:52:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: kjam22

You’re asking good questions. I’d like to add a couple along similar lines. Are there pictures of the van interior available to look at? Supposing he actually slammed his head in a way that would cause loss of consciousness, is a limp unconscious body more susceptible to dead drop falls that could cause spinal injury? Other than the obvious, such as a kick or punch to the throat, what mechanism can cause a crush injury to the windpipe? Can that happen from the neck being bent at an acute angle? Think of a straw being bent until the tube collapses. Someone who is totally out cold who takes a very hard fall, slamming into the wall or the corner of one of those cages could have their neck bent pretty badly.

I’m not looking to simply rationalize a way to get the police off the hook. If someone did this deliberately, its awful. But, absent video or reliable eyewitness testimony we have to piece together what happened.


25 posted on 04/29/2015 7:52:25 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: RC one

pot hole


26 posted on 04/29/2015 7:52:39 PM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: JewishRighter

Wouldn’t the van be padded on the interior?


27 posted on 04/29/2015 7:52:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FreeReign

Well, yeah. That’s the reason you shackle a prisoner is that they’re acting out violently. It appears that’s finally beginning to occur to the MSM’s “experts”.


28 posted on 04/29/2015 7:54:31 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Leaning Right

He was not restrained by a seat belt. I read that the van was stopped so they could put leg irons on him. The seat belt restraint police guidelines went into effect just days before this incident, so technically the police did not follow the guidelines.

But you know how protocol changes go. It takes a while for everyone to read them, but if there are important changes to protocol, it’s incumbent on management to hammer those changes home to the rank and file.


29 posted on 04/29/2015 7:55:10 PM PDT by randita (...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
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To: JewishRighter

You know.... the most likely.... most reasonable.... most plausible explanation is generally pretty close. Its a lot more likely they tried to choke him out because he was fighting, and for whatever reason it broke his neck. That’s a lot more plausible explanation for how a windpipe gets crushed.


30 posted on 04/29/2015 7:55:59 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: randita
But you know how protocol changes go. It takes a while for everyone to read them, but if there are important changes to protocol, it’s incumbent on management to hammer those changes home to the rank and file.

What do you expect in a Rat-run city?

31 posted on 04/29/2015 7:56:13 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Chauncey Uppercrust

CNN article says that the M.E. is still waiting for the toxicology report, and a spinal expert’s analysis before issuing his final report.


32 posted on 04/29/2015 7:58:08 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Chauncey Uppercrust
In Baltimore, it is a requirement that the police strap in folks who are in the back of a paddy wagon.

This is at least partially because the police were known to take the arrested on “nickel rides”, where the cops would deliberately take sharp turns and go over bumpy roads. The idea was to shake up the arrested folks, teach them a lesson if you will.

33 posted on 04/29/2015 8:00:19 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

Can’t you see that meeting in the captain’s office. 6 cops sit down. Captain’s yelling “what the &*&(*& happened?” “Gee... boss... we don’t know....we just put him in the back and turned a few sharp corners and that dumb thug was banging his head on the wall, and just broke his own neck..... oh yeah... he crushed his own windpipe too.”


34 posted on 04/29/2015 8:02:58 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: rightistight

But this never happened before /sarc


35 posted on 04/29/2015 8:08:46 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

This “person close to officer” who was interviewed by Anderson Cooper appears to be a woman (based upon several stray “wisps” of hair that slipped out of the baseball cap. The voice was changed to sound like that of a man, but is likely a black woman IMHO. CNN did a good job of trying to hide her identity, but not enough to prevent her from being detected by those who know her well.


36 posted on 04/29/2015 8:10:10 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: FreeReign

This prisoner will change his story after the DOJ have words with him


37 posted on 04/29/2015 8:15:56 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: GeronL

perpulation
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Nice neologism. A quick Google search reveals you to be the first person to use that “word”...so if it comes into widespread adoption, I’ll remember you as the creator. I regret that the “perpulation” within our Republic continues to rise.


38 posted on 04/29/2015 8:18:55 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: House Atreides

I need to use that in a story I intend to sell


39 posted on 04/29/2015 8:43:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: RC one
he broke his own neck and crushed his own larynx?

If the cops had crushed his larynx, he would have died very quickly.

He was in the hospital for a week before he died.

40 posted on 04/29/2015 8:59:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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