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Freddie Gray was 'intentionally trying to injure himself in van', claims leaked police report
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| 30 April 2015
| Daily Mail
Posted on 04/30/2015 3:32:24 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
He had history of bad health and seizure..
The term “seizure” is often used interchangeably with “convulsion.” Convulsions occur when a person’s body shakes rapidly and uncontrollably. During convulsions, the person’s muscles contract and relax repeatedly.
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:02:55 AM PDT
by
navysealdad
(http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
To: LottieDah
If he already had a spinal injury and he was banging about in the van, that could explain some of his injuries. Still doesn’t explain the damaged neck and larynx. Still doesn’t excuse the police neglect for failing to restrain him.
The autopsy report will reveal a lot, but it won’t come out for weeks.
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:08:14 AM PDT
by
randita
(...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
To: Reno89519
Explain 4 yr gap in arrest record...
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:09:35 AM PDT
by
Paladin2
To: miss marmelstein
Despite the source, they provide a really good discussion on knife laws. For that alone, this article is worth reading, which is why I shared. it.
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:12:20 AM PDT
by
Reno89519
(For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
To: Lurker
“The cops violated a written procedure to use restraints during transport.”
They did not receive word of this new policy until three days before Gray was arrested. It had not been fully implemented yet.
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:13:47 AM PDT
by
ltc8k6
To: LottieDah
It would take time to get access to his medical records.
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:15:38 AM PDT
by
ltc8k6
To: DaveA37
The now deceased Mr. Gray seemed to have a compulsion for filing law suits against those with deep pockets, particularly those involving personal injury.
There is a certain segment of society that is always on the look out for the next scam. Its one of the reasons why I don't encourage people to come to my house until I know them very well.
I have a friend who went to prison after she got involved with her scumbag husband's scam to rob the party store she worked in. It turned out he also had two other lawsuits being litigated. One was against a stone quarry he worked in for all of 3 days and the other was a factory he worked at for less than 2 weeks.
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:21:41 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
To: Dallas59
Someone had to post this:
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:23:04 AM PDT
by
Apparatchik
(If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
To: Dallas59
I love it when Sarah talks about Freddie and Fanny.
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:27:28 AM PDT
by
Lisbon1940
(No full-term governors)
To: petercooper
If that is the "report" it isn't going to help the situation one bit. Getting a "rough ride" is almost a traditional tale about paddy wagon transport in several cities. In a steel box with steel benches, handcuffs on, no restraints like seat belts, a rough ride can easily be deadly. Everyone knows about these rough rides so whether myth or true stories, saying he did it to himself is not going to wash, even among many normally police friendly citizens.
Why does my spell checker insist that "wagon" is spelled "waggon?" Is this something new in the PC dictionary?
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:32:57 AM PDT
by
arthurus
(it's true!)
To: Dallas59
Broke his own spine?
Balto PD need to learn when you’re in a hole stop digging.
To: arthurus
Your spell check must be set to British English.
Try typing neighbor or color and see what it does.
To: agere_contra
I heard he had also been involved in a Mesothelioma lawsuit from his years working in a Johns Manville plant. /s
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:39:38 AM PDT
by
petercooper
(And I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus... Rollin' down Highway 41.)
To: Reno89519
“out-of-control police need to be held accountable for their actions or inactions.”
Factually, I see no evidence of abuse.
He was standing on the bumper of van, twisting his neck and back to yell at other citizens.
So, his spine wasn’t severed prior to getting in van.
FACT. No police were in van with him, so there is no evidence of direct police abuse or negligence.
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:47:55 AM PDT
by
rbmillerjr
(Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
To: Dallas59
“...said an anonymous arrestee eager to cut a deal”
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:47:55 AM PDT
by
muir_redwoods
("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
To: Dallas59
The truth will change nothing.
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:48:12 AM PDT
by
Spok
("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
To: JJ_Folderol
“left lift Freddies head back onto his shoulders after the first time they pick him up.”
Absolute bullshit, newbie.
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:53:46 AM PDT
by
rbmillerjr
(Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
To: miss marmelstein
It was also written in the Washington Post...
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:57:58 AM PDT
by
TNMOUTH
To: Dallas59
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posted on
04/30/2015 5:58:47 AM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(If Obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
To: Reno89519
I don’t really understand what Gray’s criminal record has to do with anything. I don’t care if it was his first arrest, his 50th or his one millionth. I don’t care if he was ever convicted of any charges or if he was convicted on a hundred charges. The simple fact is that we as a society allow the police to use lethal force only under certain circumstances. Those are generally if the officer acts in self defense, if the officer acts to protect the lives of other citizens, or if such force is necessary to prevent a potentially dangerous perpetrator from escaping arrest. I am fine with all of those situations, but it seems that none of those would apply in this case. The suspect was already arrested, disarmed and restrained. It’s pretty hard to make the case that any level of force would be appropriate, let alone lethal force. I fail to see why his prior record is relevant. If the police caused his death, they should be punished regardless of the rap sheet. We don’t allow police to kill people just because they’ve been convicted of crimes in the past.
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posted on
04/30/2015 6:07:47 AM PDT
by
stremba
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